I'm up at a professional conference in San Francisco until Friday, so blogging will be light over the next few days.
I'm pleased, however, to announce some good personal news.
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Walter Annenberg, Nixonian Republican, is no doubt spinning hypersonically in his grave. The Annenbergs started out as the enforcers for Hearst who strong-armed newsstand owners to display the New York Daily Mirror prominently. They don’t teach that in J-school these days.
Good luck. Notwithstanding many disagreements, I think you’re a thoughful guy who speaks his mind and lets the chips fall where they may.
In looking at the sites about the school linked in the article, it appears that students are taught to use their future paid positions for liberal activism rather than simply reporting the news. People who report news are journalists, but people who use their paid positions to promote their personal politics are spokesmen–almost always for the left and Democrats.
What the students learn and what they reinforce on the job is that the main stream media is continuing to lose it’s relevance in the way that people obtain information and make decisions about the world. They media types are too busy feeling important and associating with their own kind to notice.
In my opinion, journalism schools need to change and go back to core objectives. Otherwise, media influence will continue to dwindle–and it deserves that. I don’t expect Marc to necessarily agree or to have a great impact on the curriculum, but I feel as if he will reel in some of their unrealities.
(Are there any conservatives of a traditional definition in that school?)
I just realized that the first sentence of the third paragraph didn’t look quite right. It should be something on the order of “What the students learn and what they reinforce on the job is causing the main stream medai to continue losing its releveance….”
Well, Woody, look at the name. Institute for Justice and Journalism. If doing journalism clashes with the priorities of the cause, guess which one has to give like a Racing Form seller being strongarmed by Annenberg goons?
Stevez, I don’t get your analogy, but I’m sure that there’s something there for me.
If someone wants to promote “justice” by their definitions, then they can do it with their own money, using paid advertising and hiring paid activists rather than using taxpayer supported universities, which corrupts the definition of journalism, destroys trust in the media, does not do “justice” itself to educating students, and, makes a lot of taxpayers upset.
I cannot tell many “news” articles from press releases of unions and Democrats.
People can obtain justice without training a group of students to get it for them. In fact, so many people who want “justice” usually already have justice in that they have received exactly what they deserve for their choices and decisions. They can’t stand that and hate to be reminded of that. Someone else has to be blamed and has to pay. (Exp.: minimum wage increases for people who created three kids but haven’t worked above the minimum starting wage level to support them.)
Someone commented to me that “justice” to people like that means really “just us.”
I’ll step aside for the rest of the day to let others have their say. I was just giving Marc some job tips, which I know that he sorely was hoping from me. However, let’s not lose sight of the main point, which should be to congratulate Marc for his latest milestone.
If the mainstream media were “liberal” they wouldn’t be paying Charles Krauthammer and George Will wouldn’t be long-standing “star” columnists at Newsweek, owned by the Washington Post.
William Safire, Nixon’s speechwriter would have been laughed off the NY Times staff decades ago and Robert Bartley, whose views are somewhere to the right of Rush Limbaugh’s would not have turned the opinion page of the Wall Street Journal, the nation’s biggest paid-subscription national daily, into a homogenously scurrilous tout for the right wing of the Republican Party.
Are you not aware of all the renowned commentators on the right in the employ of the media you call “liberal” or do you have some conspiracy theory about how their presence is some kind of token voice?
Do the math, Woody. Then tell me, why has the right wing failed so abjectly to SELL the newspapers it creates. The Washington Times, The New York Post and the New York Daily News, all owned and operated by certifiable right-wing conservatives and all relegated to second-class status by READERS, not by any imaginary elite conspiracy.
The problem the American right has in the media is that the news of the day just keeps cutting against it. Even the crusitiest “the good news in Iraq is being buried” dupe must now admit that the good news in Iraq never existed. The project was failing from the very moment George W. Bush got that warm tingly fantasy started that he was going to be a political war hero, or, perhaps, that he already was one.
Again, Woody: do the math.
America is a free country loaded with right-wing millionaires. If there was a market for right-wing news beyond the guileless Rush Limbaugh-Sean Hannity-Bill O’Reilly sermonizing to the insatiable, self-irritated choir, there would be newspapers there to fill it.
The problem is, a Limbuagh sermon can’t tell you how many people were killed by the hurricane, how much taxes are going to be raised or what the poison in the water is doing to your kidneys. Limbaugh has to wait for the media to fill you in the facts before he can finish up his morning round of golf, read the NY Times headlines, pick up his talking points memo from the RNC then start filling the Woody’s of the world with his microwaved opinions about the facts.
The American right lacks a successful newspaper because its ideology can’t be supported by events, as they happen.
Congrats…while I scratch my head over questions raised about racing forms, Annenberg goons and the clash of justice with journalism. Aren’t these the same folks who demand “good news” from Iraq…or none ? Nothing like the quest for journalism without “agendas”.
I would have baked you a cake, but I see that you’ve already been treated to a tirade about the minimum wage and folks with too many kids who deserve it, so you’ve probably lost your appetite.
Congrats. That was a very nice write up. To bad we only agree about 50 percent of the time, good news is that’s about 50 percent more than I agree with most people.
Good luck.
Good going Marc and considering Annenberg’s lineage with the wire an old gambler like you should be right at home. USC is a lot different these days then it was when it was a football team in search of a university and, unlike Pepperdine, it has stayed in the inner city and confronted the real world. Just make sure that you get good season tickets for the Trojans! Fight On!
For the first 30 years of my life I lived in a city, Indianapolis, whose inhabitants’ thinking was shaped (if not warped) by the Pulliam media (that is the clan whence Dan Quayle emerged). I have lived the last 23 years in a city, San Diego, dominated by the very conservative Copley Press newspaper. In fact, the dominant news medium in many large cities (e.g. Chicago) is very conservative. MSM does not equal liberal. Still, I would say that the journalists working for both Indy Star and SD Union-Tribune were decent, diligent reporters, and certainly on the lookout for injustice. I think that is a tribute to the strong roots that independent journalism springs from in this country….John Peter Zenger took his stand against sedition laws (I think) back in 1723 or something like that. It is a proud tradition and, given the mega-corp ownership of all the means of production and distribution, and the dominance of celebrity cults, journalists are still doing a pretty decent job.
Journalism education is a mix of people like yourself and believers in the corporate “Trade school” mentality. Still, many “justice” oriented journalism academics hold onto a specific context of justice and thus, like in their journalistic personae, delineate what forces are and are not working for justice. A hearty congratulations, and wishes of luck and integrity.
Marc, congradulations – those who have rolled up their sleeves and dug for the truth, and have reproduced their findings in the past belong in a place that shapes the future.
The one trait that stands out in everything you write is your courage, it does not seem to matter who is in opposition. I am not talking about the “Dan Rather” version, but the type that hangs it’s body on what is correct.
I don’t know about others, but I for one have particularly appreciated your clarity and conviction during crisis (especially recently). Do all you can to instill this in those who are in your charge – and I am convinced that you will.
Congratulations!!! Entirely deserved. IJJ and the Annenberg J School are supremely lucky to have you.
Terrific write up too, and your cool-osity is captured wonderfully well in the photo.
But Marc, did I misunderstand? Or wasn’t that photo supposed to be taken of you in your Speedos? (I’m positive I saw reference to this on LAObserved. Really I am.)
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:01 am
Congratulations!
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:37 am
Great going, Marc. I’m happy for you and pleased that they made such an excellent choice. I always enjoy reading your blog.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:08 am
Marc, congratulations! It couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy and they couldn’t have chosen any better. You will do well in this methinks.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:26 am
Walter Annenberg, Nixonian Republican, is no doubt spinning hypersonically in his grave. The Annenbergs started out as the enforcers for Hearst who strong-armed newsstand owners to display the New York Daily Mirror prominently. They don’t teach that in J-school these days.
Good luck. Notwithstanding many disagreements, I think you’re a thoughful guy who speaks his mind and lets the chips fall where they may.
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:52 am
Congratulations, Marc.
In looking at the sites about the school linked in the article, it appears that students are taught to use their future paid positions for liberal activism rather than simply reporting the news. People who report news are journalists, but people who use their paid positions to promote their personal politics are spokesmen–almost always for the left and Democrats.
What the students learn and what they reinforce on the job is that the main stream media is continuing to lose it’s relevance in the way that people obtain information and make decisions about the world. They media types are too busy feeling important and associating with their own kind to notice.
In my opinion, journalism schools need to change and go back to core objectives. Otherwise, media influence will continue to dwindle–and it deserves that. I don’t expect Marc to necessarily agree or to have a great impact on the curriculum, but I feel as if he will reel in some of their unrealities.
(Are there any conservatives of a traditional definition in that school?)
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:55 am
I just realized that the first sentence of the third paragraph didn’t look quite right. It should be something on the order of “What the students learn and what they reinforce on the job is causing the main stream medai to continue losing its releveance….”
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:56 am
Well, Woody, look at the name. Institute for Justice and Journalism. If doing journalism clashes with the priorities of the cause, guess which one has to give like a Racing Form seller being strongarmed by Annenberg goons?
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:16 am
Stevez, I don’t get your analogy, but I’m sure that there’s something there for me.
If someone wants to promote “justice” by their definitions, then they can do it with their own money, using paid advertising and hiring paid activists rather than using taxpayer supported universities, which corrupts the definition of journalism, destroys trust in the media, does not do “justice” itself to educating students, and, makes a lot of taxpayers upset.
I cannot tell many “news” articles from press releases of unions and Democrats.
People can obtain justice without training a group of students to get it for them. In fact, so many people who want “justice” usually already have justice in that they have received exactly what they deserve for their choices and decisions. They can’t stand that and hate to be reminded of that. Someone else has to be blamed and has to pay. (Exp.: minimum wage increases for people who created three kids but haven’t worked above the minimum starting wage level to support them.)
Someone commented to me that “justice” to people like that means really “just us.”
I’ll step aside for the rest of the day to let others have their say. I was just giving Marc some job tips, which I know that he sorely was hoping from me. However, let’s not lose sight of the main point, which should be to congratulate Marc for his latest milestone.
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:55 am
Woody, do the math.
If the mainstream media were “liberal” they wouldn’t be paying Charles Krauthammer and George Will wouldn’t be long-standing “star” columnists at Newsweek, owned by the Washington Post.
William Safire, Nixon’s speechwriter would have been laughed off the NY Times staff decades ago and Robert Bartley, whose views are somewhere to the right of Rush Limbaugh’s would not have turned the opinion page of the Wall Street Journal, the nation’s biggest paid-subscription national daily, into a homogenously scurrilous tout for the right wing of the Republican Party.
Are you not aware of all the renowned commentators on the right in the employ of the media you call “liberal” or do you have some conspiracy theory about how their presence is some kind of token voice?
Do the math, Woody. Then tell me, why has the right wing failed so abjectly to SELL the newspapers it creates. The Washington Times, The New York Post and the New York Daily News, all owned and operated by certifiable right-wing conservatives and all relegated to second-class status by READERS, not by any imaginary elite conspiracy.
The problem the American right has in the media is that the news of the day just keeps cutting against it. Even the crusitiest “the good news in Iraq is being buried” dupe must now admit that the good news in Iraq never existed. The project was failing from the very moment George W. Bush got that warm tingly fantasy started that he was going to be a political war hero, or, perhaps, that he already was one.
Again, Woody: do the math.
America is a free country loaded with right-wing millionaires. If there was a market for right-wing news beyond the guileless Rush Limbaugh-Sean Hannity-Bill O’Reilly sermonizing to the insatiable, self-irritated choir, there would be newspapers there to fill it.
The problem is, a Limbuagh sermon can’t tell you how many people were killed by the hurricane, how much taxes are going to be raised or what the poison in the water is doing to your kidneys. Limbaugh has to wait for the media to fill you in the facts before he can finish up his morning round of golf, read the NY Times headlines, pick up his talking points memo from the RNC then start filling the Woody’s of the world with his microwaved opinions about the facts.
The American right lacks a successful newspaper because its ideology can’t be supported by events, as they happen.
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:03 am
And, indeed, Marc deserves some congratulations. I’ll make mine in the form of a cash offer and a suggestion/challenge to all the regulars here:
If Marc will sever the Pajamas Media connection, I will be the first to sign up as a paid subscriber to his Web site.
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:12 am
Congratulations, good to see you finally got a real job!
August 3rd, 2006 at 8:28 am
congratz
August 3rd, 2006 at 8:53 am
Congrats…while I scratch my head over questions raised about racing forms, Annenberg goons and the clash of justice with journalism. Aren’t these the same folks who demand “good news” from Iraq…or none ? Nothing like the quest for journalism without “agendas”.
I would have baked you a cake, but I see that you’ve already been treated to a tirade about the minimum wage and folks with too many kids who deserve it, so you’ve probably lost your appetite.
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:58 am
Congratulations Marc,
This is so well-deserved!!!
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:04 am
Congrats. That was a very nice write up. To bad we only agree about 50 percent of the time, good news is that’s about 50 percent more than I agree with most people.
Good luck.
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:41 am
Good going Marc and considering Annenberg’s lineage with the wire an old gambler like you should be right at home. USC is a lot different these days then it was when it was a football team in search of a university and, unlike Pepperdine, it has stayed in the inner city and confronted the real world. Just make sure that you get good season tickets for the Trojans! Fight On!
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:21 pm
For the first 30 years of my life I lived in a city, Indianapolis, whose inhabitants’ thinking was shaped (if not warped) by the Pulliam media (that is the clan whence Dan Quayle emerged). I have lived the last 23 years in a city, San Diego, dominated by the very conservative Copley Press newspaper. In fact, the dominant news medium in many large cities (e.g. Chicago) is very conservative. MSM does not equal liberal. Still, I would say that the journalists working for both Indy Star and SD Union-Tribune were decent, diligent reporters, and certainly on the lookout for injustice. I think that is a tribute to the strong roots that independent journalism springs from in this country….John Peter Zenger took his stand against sedition laws (I think) back in 1723 or something like that. It is a proud tradition and, given the mega-corp ownership of all the means of production and distribution, and the dominance of celebrity cults, journalists are still doing a pretty decent job.
Congratulations and do well.
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:52 pm
Congratulations….
Journalism education is a mix of people like yourself and believers in the corporate “Trade school” mentality. Still, many “justice” oriented journalism academics hold onto a specific context of justice and thus, like in their journalistic personae, delineate what forces are and are not working for justice. A hearty congratulations, and wishes of luck and integrity.
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:24 pm
Marc, congradulations – those who have rolled up their sleeves and dug for the truth, and have reproduced their findings in the past belong in a place that shapes the future.
The one trait that stands out in everything you write is your courage, it does not seem to matter who is in opposition. I am not talking about the “Dan Rather” version, but the type that hangs it’s body on what is correct.
I don’t know about others, but I for one have particularly appreciated your clarity and conviction during crisis (especially recently). Do all you can to instill this in those who are in your charge – and I am convinced that you will.
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:27 pm
Congrats Captain. Best of luck.
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:31 pm
Thanks to all well-wishers. Much appreciated.
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:39 pm
Congratulations!!! Entirely deserved. IJJ and the Annenberg J School are supremely lucky to have you.
Terrific write up too, and your cool-osity is captured wonderfully well in the photo.
But Marc, did I misunderstand? Or wasn’t that photo supposed to be taken of you in your Speedos? (I’m positive I saw reference to this on LAObserved. Really I am.)
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:00 pm
Congratulations for not wearing Speedos in the photo…lol
August 3rd, 2006 at 10:13 pm
Well done. I’d love to take one of your classes. Lucky brats!
August 4th, 2006 at 7:00 am
it’s enough to make me wish i was back in school. congratulations marc!