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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-635877</link>
		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608516</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608508</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608507</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608486</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608485</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608516</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608508</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608507</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608447</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608508</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608507</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608451</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608447</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608516</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a $700 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a $700 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608486</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608451</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608447</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608451</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608452</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608451</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608447</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608485</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608452</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608451</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608447</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608446</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt;$8 billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of $12.10 an hour to a maximum of $10.10. California officials took the step to save $74 million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b>$8 billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of $12.10 an hour to a maximum of $10.10. California officials took the step to save $74 million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608507</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608486</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608485</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608507</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608507</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608486</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608485</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608447</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608446</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608516</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608508</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608507</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608486</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608485</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608477</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608452</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608451</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608447</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608445</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Geneva Carfora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geneva Carfora</dc:creator>
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		<description>I saw this page bookmarked and I really liked what I read. I will definitely bookmark it as well and also check your other posts tomorrow.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIDEO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; - San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.
&lt;i&gt;San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlqNC25bI8" rel="nofollow">VIDEO</a></b> &#8211; San Diego County: Hey guys, we have a 0 million surplus, wanna know how we did it? State Govt: F- off, we got it.<br />
<i>San Diego Board of Supervisors Chairman Dianne Jacob on why California has a spending rather than revenue problem.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who don&#039;t know, this ain&#039;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who don&#8217;t know, this ain&#8217;t Bill Bradley the basketball player, but has written great stuff for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bill Bradley&#039;s comments above:  &quot;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&quot;

I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.

The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.

Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.

But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?

Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bill Bradley&#8217;s comments above:  &#8220;Nice distortion of my meaning. . . . You have to pass a constitutional amendment.  Which has been tried and failed . . . it contradicts [the] claim that the voters don’t know about the two-thirds rule.  He also leaves out the Field Poll . . . taken a few weeks ago, showing massive opposition to changing the two-thirds rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you missed my meaning too.  No one disputes what the polls say, since they say what they say.</p>
<p>The question is whether one becomes debilitated, by taking polls as received wisdom.  Or, whether one takes polls as starting points that show the gaps requiring  leadership/marketing/education.</p>
<p>Naturally, it is an open question as to whether this effort leadership will ever effectively coalesce and actually happen.  And whether it would be enough anyway.</p>
<p>But to sit on our hands fatalistically because of a poll (and a failed campaign a few years ago), with this magnitude of crisis (and opportunity) before us?</p>
<p>Sometimes sophistication can be incapacitating.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608505</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 20:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#039;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#039;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn?  You sure consider yourself some kind of elitist.  Don&#8217;t waste your time reading my comments or articles by George Will, given your vast superior knowledge.  Of course, the lesser of us wouldn&#8217;t have been so smart as to get our state in the condition that the liberals put theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608501</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608491</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bradley, I&#039;m passing this along, although I&#039;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &quot;far right frak behind the curve.&quot;  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Coming California Bailout&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bradley, I&#8217;m passing this along, although I&#8217;m sure that someone as superior as you would consider George Will to be a &#8220;far right frak behind the curve.&#8221;  <b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052002061.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">The Coming California Bailout</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career&lt;/i&gt;

And if that&#039;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll -- a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters -- and only 11% of registered Republicans -- approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#039;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &quot;not aware of the minority rule situation&quot; -- that is, they don&#039;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities ... &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#039;s because there&#039;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &quot;the government&#039;s the problem, not the solution&quot;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career</i></p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s a different Bill Bradley, all the more reason not to care what this one has to say about the results of a Field poll &#8212; a poll that shows that  only 14% of registered voters &#8212; and only 11% of registered Republicans &#8212; approve of the job the legislature is doing. Since that job is dependent on the 2/3 rule that they say they don&#8217;t want to get rid of, a rule that allows a minority of Republicans to block tax increases, quite obviously the electorate is &#8220;not aware of the minority rule situation&#8221; &#8212; that is, they don&#8217;t comprehend its consequences. And so the approval of the rule can be turned around with an intelligent campaign that ties the rule to the severe cuts in services that we are facing. Every time someone complains about education, road conditions, crime, mental health facilities &#8230; <i>anything</i> in which the state government plays a role, point out that it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s no money because of the 2/3 rule.  If they really believe that &#8220;the government&#8217;s the problem, not the solution&#8221;, then they should SFTU and buy their own damn roads and police.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :

‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘&lt;/i&gt;

It isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration

&quot;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
<p>‘All budgetary and revenue issues shall be decided by a majority vote in both houses of the legislature. ‘</i></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> that simple because it needs accompanying legal language to change the state constitution, but it can be presented that way, and Courage Campaign has already taken that up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration" rel="nofollow">http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/Declaration</a></p>
<p>&#8220;DECLARATION OF DEMOCRACY: Budgets and taxes should be approved by a majority vote of the legislature.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608484</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#039;s escalating economic catastrophe&quot;

Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners -- with whom you&#039;re now aligning --  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.

The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#039;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#039;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#039;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;designed, at least in a minimal way, to ease California&#8217;s escalating economic catastrophe&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no. While not passing these measures leaves the state in terrible shape, passing them would have left it in much worse shape, and nearly permanently, which is why virtually every progressive organization opposed it, and why they fought hard, and succeeded,  at the CA Dem convention against the Dem party mainliners &#8212; with whom you&#8217;re now aligning &#8212;  to keep the party from endorsing 1A.</p>
<p>The problem in this state is, and has been since 1978&#8242;s Prop 13, the 2/3 rule that allows a handful of rabid Republican ideologues to strangle the government by blocking revenue increases. The tax rate on commercial property in CA is insanely low, and the massive profits from those properties are going off to China and everywhere else but not to the communities that are making them possible; it&#8217;s a libertarian wet dream. Somalia here we come unless we change it. And we can change it, contrary to nitwits like Bill Bradley who don&#8217;t understand voter dynamics (the only reason he ever won was because of his NBA career).</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608480</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BB, this is not the first time that I&#039;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#039;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  

If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BB, this is not the first time that I&#8217;ve mentioned SEIU and Obama trying to blackmail your state.  It&#8217;s just that you guys would prefer to ignore it.  </p>
<p>If you like, I can be sure to email you every time that I make a comment so that you may pass judgment on its timeliness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, you far right frak, you are so far behind the curve that it is pathetic  ...</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608457</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg:  &lt;i&gt;We’ll take the dog, but…&lt;/i&gt;  

Sure you&#039;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.

- - - 

Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another &lt;b&gt; billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program&lt;/b&gt;, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#039;s huge budget shortfall.

The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union -- the &lt;b&gt;Service Employees International Union&lt;/b&gt;. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#039;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg:  <i>We’ll take the dog, but…</i>  </p>
<p>Sure you&#8217;ll take the dog.  She is totally dependent on someone else providing her food and shelter, like others in California who want the state to care for them.  At least she does a few tricks for her treats.  But, as I actually told my son the other day, she is a Republican dog.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Regarding the California budget, get this!  While you turned your heads, Obama was trying to blackmail and penalize the state and its elderly because of a compalint by the SEIU.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-stimulus-california21-2009may21,0,737150.story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a letter that was given to the governor this morning, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said the state remains eligible to receive another <b> billion in stimulus money for its Medicaid program</b>, a ruling that may offer some solace for state officials coping with the resounding voter defeat Tuesday of five ballot measures aimed at closing California&#8217;s huge budget shortfall.</p>
<p>The decision resolves a bitter standoff between the Obama and Schwarzenegger administrations, in which California officials questioned the involvement of an influential union &#8212; the <b>Service Employees International Union</b>. The Obama administration set up a conference call on April 15 to discuss whether the state had violated the new stimulus law by cutting the pay of unionized home healthcare workers from a maximum of .10 an hour to a maximum of .10. California officials took the step to save  million and move closer to narrowing the state&#8217;s multibillion-dollar budget gap.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#124; Rants &#38; Reasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608451</link>
		<dc:creator>What If We Had an Election and Nobody Showed? &#171; Philosophy On The Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the middle of grading final exams so I will let Marc Cooper speak for me: I think it fair to assign the bulk of the blame to one Arnold Schwarzenegger. He came [...]</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608447</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody: &quot;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&quot;

 We&#039;ll take the dog, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody: &#8220;I understand that ACORN can register me and my dog to vote in California.&#8221;</p>
<p> We&#8217;ll take the dog, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Settembrini, Texas does not have a state income tax.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608445</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  Woody Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am

 Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&quot;


 Does this mean I&#039;m not gay ?  I&#039;m kind of disoriented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  Woody Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 10:59 am</p>
<p> Hey, just to give you guys some peace and let you discuss this your way, I’m not saying any more on this subject.&#8221;</p>
<p> Does this mean I&#8217;m not gay ?  I&#8217;m kind of disoriented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#039;s column  ...

&quot;The term &#039;revenue&#039; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&quot;

Uh-huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, btw, Sinister Sam left out this gem from Perfersser Lakoff&#8217;s column  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8216;revenue&#8217; would cover taxes without waving a red flag.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh-huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/arnold-flubbin-california-shruggin/comment-page-1/#comment-608441</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 00:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m replying to these insights  ...

&gt;Sam Sinister Says: 
May 20th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Regarding Bill Bradley’s comment:

“I’ve looked at polling on these various ideas.
We’ll leave it at that …”

Well, that’s been exactly the problem, “leaving it at that”. Leadership has been abysmal for fear of having to pull some oars to make the polls move, heaven forfend.

Small fissures in the (hopefully) increasingly well-organized grass roots may be able to catalyze some movement on these issues.

George Lakoff had a persuasive proposal today, to submit to the voters a one-line initiative:

“Most Californians are not aware of the minority rule situation. . . . The Democratic leadership should immediately take the initiative on a 2010 ballot measure, a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m replying to these insights  &#8230;</p>
<p>&gt;Sam Sinister Says:<br />
May 20th, 2009 at 1:29 pm<br />
Regarding Bill Bradley’s comment:</p>
<p>“I’ve looked at polling on these various ideas.<br />
We’ll leave it at that …”</p>
<p>Well, that’s been exactly the problem, “leaving it at that”. Leadership has been abysmal for fear of having to pull some oars to make the polls move, heaven forfend.</p>
<p>Small fissures in the (hopefully) increasingly well-organized grass roots may be able to catalyze some movement on these issues.</p>
<p>George Lakoff had a persuasive proposal today, to submit to the voters a one-line initiative:</p>
<p>“Most Californians are not aware of the minority rule situation. . . . The Democratic leadership should immediately take the initiative on a 2010 ballot measure, a supremely simple one-sentence measure . . . :</p>
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