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		<title>By: undershirt</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-635207</link>
		<dc:creator>undershirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - good blog, just searching around some websites, appears to be a really good platform you are using. I&#039;m presently utilizing Wordpress for several of my websites but looking to change 1 of them over to a platform very similar to yours as a tryout run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; good blog, just searching around some websites, appears to be a really good platform you are using. I&#8217;m presently utilizing WordPress for several of my websites but looking to change 1 of them over to a platform very similar to yours as a tryout run.</p>
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		<title>By: moderninterior design</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-632931</link>
		<dc:creator>moderninterior design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 15:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This weblog has been a helpful read and I&#039;ll inform my friends about it thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This weblog has been a helpful read and I&#8217;ll inform my friends about it thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Bille Joe Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-581297</link>
		<dc:creator>Bille Joe Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bille Joe Armstrong...&lt;/strong&gt;

I Googled for something completely different, but found your page...and have to say thanks. nice read....</description>
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<p>I Googled for something completely different, but found your page&#8230;and have to say thanks. nice read&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: old newspaper headlines</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-579695</link>
		<dc:creator>old newspaper headlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;old newspaper headlines...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>old newspaper headlines&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Free Online Vedios <a href="http://www.flashgamesz.net/mediacentre.." rel="nofollow">http://www.flashgamesz.net/mediacentre..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Roundhead</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-477449</link>
		<dc:creator>Roundhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is interesting -

RCTV is being &quot;accused&quot; of being involved in the same actions (a coup) that Chavez involved himself in as well...

The defence of this outrage against liberty of the media is proof, is any more is needed, that the left&#039;s is about power, and nothing about professed love for freedom and equality...

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is interesting -</p>
<p>RCTV is being &#8220;accused&#8221; of being involved in the same actions (a coup) that Chavez involved himself in as well&#8230;</p>
<p>The defence of this outrage against liberty of the media is proof, is any more is needed, that the left&#8217;s is about power, and nothing about professed love for freedom and equality&#8230;</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Mac Ocstein</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-477181</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac Ocstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullet holes mentioned above on a post were shown by TV cameras to have existed before the demonstration turned violent, so they were there before!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullet holes mentioned above on a post were shown by TV cameras to have existed before the demonstration turned violent, so they were there before!</p>
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		<title>By: Old Farts Club</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Farts Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a grip, momo. You ain&#039;t much of a trend setter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a grip, momo. You ain&#8217;t much of a trend setter.</p>
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		<title>By: bunkerbuster</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-476344</link>
		<dc:creator>bunkerbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah but kvetching that the 60s/70s are passe is sooo 1980s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah but kvetching that the 60s/70s are passe is sooo 1980s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-476317</link>
		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean my eight-tracks are no good anymore? Next you&#039;ll be telling me my lava lamp is out of date!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean my eight-tracks are no good anymore? Next you&#8217;ll be telling me my lava lamp is out of date!</p>
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		<title>By: bunkerbuster</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-475896</link>
		<dc:creator>bunkerbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Ordinary Nicaraguans used to say: ``Si no eres chicha ni limonada, te pondremas de barricada.&#039;&#039;

Now if my Spanish were better, I could flip that around into something about what happened to the newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Ordinary Nicaraguans used to say: &#8220;Si no eres chicha ni limonada, te pondremas de barricada.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now if my Spanish were better, I could flip that around into something about what happened to the newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: William Towers</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-475863</link>
		<dc:creator>William Towers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And by the way, I&#039;m Mr. Ironic. The use of the &quot;ironic&quot; tag is not to protect me from 8-track tape morons trying to extend &quot;imperialism,&quot; as the soon-to-be retirees here utter, but to somehow try to drive some sense into Cooper. That is an impossible task, I now understand. 

This is not to imply I&#039;m a Chavez devotee, I am not. But whether I like the man&#039;s speaking style, governing agenda, whatever, to bash the man by sympathizing with the same type forces that ended the Allende presidency is grotesque.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way, I&#8217;m Mr. Ironic. The use of the &#8220;ironic&#8221; tag is not to protect me from 8-track tape morons trying to extend &#8220;imperialism,&#8221; as the soon-to-be retirees here utter, but to somehow try to drive some sense into Cooper. That is an impossible task, I now understand. </p>
<p>This is not to imply I&#8217;m a Chavez devotee, I am not. But whether I like the man&#8217;s speaking style, governing agenda, whatever, to bash the man by sympathizing with the same type forces that ended the Allende presidency is grotesque.</p>
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		<title>By: William Towers</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-475850</link>
		<dc:creator>William Towers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom to participate in, foster and incite a violent rebellon and coup d&#039;etat, let&#039;s see, where does that fit in the U.S. constitution. 

I sure hope I don&#039;t get tunnel vision when I become an old fokie like some of you here. I think the best guage of freedoms is whether or not the use of one freedom is impinging on another freedom. Or, to say it another way, have all the freedoms you want as long as you don&#039;t take it away from someone else. 

Freedoms have limits in order to protect the overall public good. If Chavez is right and RCTV took part in the most undemocratic act of all, the overthrow of a democratically-elected government, taking away their public broadcasting liscense is like a slap on the wrist considering the offense. Cooper and Company crying censorship is a farce: again, RCTV has not been shut down and will continue to vomit its point of view for Venezuela on cable and elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom to participate in, foster and incite a violent rebellon and coup d&#8217;etat, let&#8217;s see, where does that fit in the U.S. constitution. </p>
<p>I sure hope I don&#8217;t get tunnel vision when I become an old fokie like some of you here. I think the best guage of freedoms is whether or not the use of one freedom is impinging on another freedom. Or, to say it another way, have all the freedoms you want as long as you don&#8217;t take it away from someone else. </p>
<p>Freedoms have limits in order to protect the overall public good. If Chavez is right and RCTV took part in the most undemocratic act of all, the overthrow of a democratically-elected government, taking away their public broadcasting liscense is like a slap on the wrist considering the offense. Cooper and Company crying censorship is a farce: again, RCTV has not been shut down and will continue to vomit its point of view for Venezuela on cable and elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary:

Barricada was indeed the official organ of the Frente Sandinista. It has since become an independent left of center paper critical of the Right and of Ortega. I find it quite significant that it supports RCTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary:</p>
<p>Barricada was indeed the official organ of the Frente Sandinista. It has since become an independent left of center paper critical of the Right and of Ortega. I find it quite significant that it supports RCTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Stubby</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-475767</link>
		<dc:creator>Stubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booby:  No I don&#039;t.  I haven&#039;t said anything particularly right wing or Republican (saying that 60s political rhetoric is old and tired is not a right wing position, believe me).

Alex, as I recall, was basically pro-money, pro-personal grooming.  I have no arguments with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booby:  No I don&#8217;t.  I haven&#8217;t said anything particularly right wing or Republican (saying that 60s political rhetoric is old and tired is not a right wing position, believe me).</p>
<p>Alex, as I recall, was basically pro-money, pro-personal grooming.  I have no arguments with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Booby Rizzmek</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-475718</link>
		<dc:creator>Booby Rizzmek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 19:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess thatâ€™s why the whole â€œyouâ€™re an imperialist toolâ€, â€œNo, youâ€™ve betrayed the Revolutionâ€ thing seems as modern and relevant as 8 track tapes to me.

===

Hmmm, you sound like the character Michael J. Fox played in &quot;Family Ties&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess thatâ€™s why the whole â€œyouâ€™re an imperialist toolâ€, â€œNo, youâ€™ve betrayed the Revolutionâ€ thing seems as modern and relevant as 8 track tapes to me.</p>
<p>===</p>
<p>Hmmm, you sound like the character Michael J. Fox played in &#8220;Family Ties&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stubby</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-475710</link>
		<dc:creator>Stubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 19:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing.  Does anyone under the age of 50 use the term &quot;dialectical&quot; in relation to politics?  In a serious, non-ironic way, I mean?  Cause when I hear terms like &quot;dialectical&quot; tossed around in political argument, I immediately think &quot;Oh.  Old hippies.&quot;  And then I began to drift off.

Granted, I&#039;m not young - I&#039;m 43, born one month after JFK died - I seem to be right on the cut off point between Boomer politics and non-Boomer politics - between people who remember the 1970s as a time of the Vietnam war, imperialism, revolution, etc., and those (like me) who remember bad clothes, bad hair and bad interior design.  I&#039;m just a bit too young to really remember the Vietnam war, and it has no personal meaning for me at all.  Neither do mentions of Pinochet and Allende, although I know who they were and what they did.

I guess that&#039;s why the whole &quot;you&#039;re an imperialist tool&quot;, &quot;No, you&#039;ve betrayed the Revolution&quot; thing seems as modern and relevant as 8 track tapes to me.

The fact that some people in these threads would actually support a government shut down of Fox News because it does not reflect reality as they see it is, to me, proof of the old &quot;all politics is circular&quot; idea - that is, if you move far enough to the left you will meet up with the right, and vice versa.   Old right wing Latin American dictators shut down newspapers who supported communist overthrow of the government.  New left wing Latin American dictators shut down TV stations who support capitalist (oligarchic, whatever) overthrow of the government.  Their US apologists,  on either side, will defend them because they are acting in the interests of &quot;the people.&quot;  I have nothing but contempt for either view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing.  Does anyone under the age of 50 use the term &#8220;dialectical&#8221; in relation to politics?  In a serious, non-ironic way, I mean?  Cause when I hear terms like &#8220;dialectical&#8221; tossed around in political argument, I immediately think &#8220;Oh.  Old hippies.&#8221;  And then I began to drift off.</p>
<p>Granted, I&#8217;m not young &#8211; I&#8217;m 43, born one month after JFK died &#8211; I seem to be right on the cut off point between Boomer politics and non-Boomer politics &#8211; between people who remember the 1970s as a time of the Vietnam war, imperialism, revolution, etc., and those (like me) who remember bad clothes, bad hair and bad interior design.  I&#8217;m just a bit too young to really remember the Vietnam war, and it has no personal meaning for me at all.  Neither do mentions of Pinochet and Allende, although I know who they were and what they did.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s why the whole &#8220;you&#8217;re an imperialist tool&#8221;, &#8220;No, you&#8217;ve betrayed the Revolution&#8221; thing seems as modern and relevant as 8 track tapes to me.</p>
<p>The fact that some people in these threads would actually support a government shut down of Fox News because it does not reflect reality as they see it is, to me, proof of the old &#8220;all politics is circular&#8221; idea &#8211; that is, if you move far enough to the left you will meet up with the right, and vice versa.   Old right wing Latin American dictators shut down newspapers who supported communist overthrow of the government.  New left wing Latin American dictators shut down TV stations who support capitalist (oligarchic, whatever) overthrow of the government.  Their US apologists,  on either side, will defend them because they are acting in the interests of &#8220;the people.&#8221;  I have nothing but contempt for either view.</p>
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		<title>By: Stubby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 19:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Meanwhile, there&#039;s a growing fear even among Chavez&#039; own supporters inside Venezuela that he&#039;s intent mostly on consolidating his personal power.&quot;


Wow.  You think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Meanwhile, there&#8217;s a growing fear even among Chavez&#8217; own supporters inside Venezuela that he&#8217;s intent mostly on consolidating his personal power.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow.  You think?</p>
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		<title>By: Vanderleun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanderleun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The reality is much more complex and open ended.&quot; Ah, yes, ye olde &quot;Don&#039;t you see that reality is &#039;complicated&#039;?&quot; argument from the anointed. Followed, as it must be, by the simple statement &quot;letâ€™s work on steering our own government away from the reflexive insecurity that looks on the Chavezâ€™s of the worldâ€“and there are manyâ€“as opportunities for domestic political gain via military intervention or â€œaidâ€ and no-bid private security contracts down the road....&quot; 

Really? Does it? Given that the most complicated subject in the world is American Foreign Policy, isn&#039;t that a bit simplistic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The reality is much more complex and open ended.&#8221; Ah, yes, ye olde &#8220;Don&#8217;t you see that reality is &#8216;complicated&#8217;?&#8221; argument from the anointed. Followed, as it must be, by the simple statement &#8220;letâ€™s work on steering our own government away from the reflexive insecurity that looks on the Chavezâ€™s of the worldâ€“and there are manyâ€“as opportunities for domestic political gain via military intervention or â€œaidâ€ and no-bid private security contracts down the road&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
<p>Really? Does it? Given that the most complicated subject in the world is American Foreign Policy, isn&#8217;t that a bit simplistic?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ogletree</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/bananas-part-16/comment-page-2/#comment-475520</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ogletree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked Barricada&#039;s website, which used to be (not sure about now) the Sandinista newspaper.  My limited Spanish let me figure out the paper is wholeheartedly in support of RCTV and critical of Chavez.  It&#039;s tragic the Nicaraquan revolution was cut short by Reagan and his goons.  It was maybe the first and last socialist revolution that made sense and might have served as a model for Latin America.  Instead we get the Fidel wannabe.  I guess Cuban style gulags are next in Venezuela.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked Barricada&#8217;s website, which used to be (not sure about now) the Sandinista newspaper.  My limited Spanish let me figure out the paper is wholeheartedly in support of RCTV and critical of Chavez.  It&#8217;s tragic the Nicaraquan revolution was cut short by Reagan and his goons.  It was maybe the first and last socialist revolution that made sense and might have served as a model for Latin America.  Instead we get the Fidel wannabe.  I guess Cuban style gulags are next in Venezuela.</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Arthur when you see him please Give Charles Beard my best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Arthur when you see him please Give Charles Beard my best!</p>
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