Comments on: Beyond The Sea: Bobby Darin (and Charlie Manson) And Me http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/ Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:26:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: rosedog http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6632 rosedog Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6632 Nice musings. For the record, Sharon Tate and Jay Sebring were killed by the Manson followers on August 9, 1969....the same summer as the first Apollo moon landing, the Rolling Stones free concert in Hyde Park where they introduced "Honky Tonk Woman" and released thousands of white butterflies to honor Brian Jones, "Easy Rider" was in the theaters...and there was that Woodstock thang too that summer... Nice musings.

For the record, Sharon Tate and Jay Sebring were killed by the Manson followers on August 9, 1969….the same summer as the first Apollo moon landing, the Rolling Stones free concert in Hyde Park where they introduced “Honky Tonk Woman” and released thousands of white butterflies to honor Brian Jones, “Easy Rider” was in the theaters…and there was that Woodstock thang too that summer…

]]> By: Marc Cooper http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6633 Marc Cooper Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6633 Ahhh.. yes.. Auguest not October 69... One more set of connections//// Steve Blauner who was Bobby Darin's long time pal and producer also helped produced Easy Rider. 6 degrees, no more. Ahhh.. yes.. Auguest not October 69… One more set of connections//// Steve Blauner who was Bobby Darin’s long time pal and producer also helped produced Easy Rider. 6 degrees, no more.

]]> By: Randy Paul http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6634 Randy Paul Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6634 Fascinating tale, Marc. "Beyond the Sea" is the only song that I have been brave enough (well fortified with alcohol) to sing at a karaoke bar. Fascinating tale, Marc. “Beyond the Sea” is the only song that I have been brave enough (well fortified with alcohol) to sing at a karaoke bar.

]]> By: GMRoper http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6635 GMRoper Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6635 Randy, you are braver than I, fortified with Alcohol or not. ;-) But, my rememberances of Bobby Daren are intertwined with a lot of other memories, graduating from college, getting married, first professional job, getting drafted and deciding to join instead (I would rather have done pretty much 3 years of my choice in the service than 2 years of what Uncle Sam chose for me). All in the summer of '69. Thanks for this post Marc; ahhh, the memories it stirs....... Randy, you are braver than I, fortified with Alcohol or not. ;-)

But, my rememberances of Bobby Daren are intertwined with a lot of other memories, graduating from college, getting married, first professional job, getting drafted and deciding to join instead (I would rather have done pretty much 3 years of my choice in the service than 2 years of what Uncle Sam chose for me). All in the summer of ’69.

Thanks for this post Marc; ahhh, the memories it stirs…….

]]> By: jim hitchcock http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6636 jim hitchcock Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6636 Liked the story, Marc. Wish Randy would finish his, as in; What happened with the onlookers during your brief sing career? Liked the story, Marc. Wish Randy would finish his, as in; What happened with the onlookers during your brief sing career?

]]> By: Randy Paul http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6637 Randy Paul Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6637 Jim, Fortunately no dogs were around to howl, but I dated a few singers and one of the things they learn early on is how to use their breathing to come to the ends of those phrases. Unfortunately for me, those held notes at the end of phrases sounded like they were crawling off somewhere to die. As for the audience, to quote Jim Morrison on the Doors Absolutely Live album, "Grown men were weeping. Policemen were turning in their badges." Jim,

Fortunately no dogs were around to howl, but I dated a few singers and one of the things they learn early on is how to use their breathing to come to the ends of those phrases. Unfortunately for me, those held notes at the end of phrases sounded like they were crawling off somewhere to die.

As for the audience, to quote Jim Morrison on the Doors Absolutely Live album, “Grown men were weeping. Policemen were turning in their badges.”

]]> By: reg http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6638 reg Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6638 Bobby Darin is interesting for his ability to span the entire repertoire of American popular music from the vaudville/Al Jolson era to the late '60s in one relatively short career. He sang antiquated vaudville stuff like "Bill Bailey" and "That Lonesome Road" in his Copa show, did his Sinatra turn on Cole Porter and other "standard" fare, had his first hits with teen-market rock & roll like "Splish Splash" and "Dream Lover", covered Ray Charles without totally embarrassing himself (on the Atlantic R&B label no less), had an almost-bizarre fluke of a huge hit from musical theater ("Mack the Knife" originated in Weimar cabaret theatre, co-written by three Communists if you count the English adaptor, Marc Blitztein, along with German lyricist Bertold Brecht and composer Kurt Weill), covered more conventional Broadway show tunes, and in the wake of the '60s counter-culture ended up doing credible folk-rock "protest" songs. Darin was undoubtedly as notable for his ambition as his talent and he had that "Sammy Davis" quality of needing his audience a lot more than they needed him. But I'm glad to see him getting a bit of a comeback, even if he's not around for it and the movie sort of sucks. Saw one of Darin's last performances recently on a cheesy PBS fundraising marathon, and whatever else you might say about him, he was a natural entertainer, a better singer than I'd remembered and he was able to span generations and genres of music with an ease that I was too young to appreciate when he was alive. Bobby Darin is interesting for his ability to span the entire repertoire of American popular music from the vaudville/Al Jolson era to the late ’60s in one relatively short career. He sang antiquated vaudville stuff like “Bill Bailey” and “That Lonesome Road” in his Copa show, did his Sinatra turn on Cole Porter and other “standard” fare, had his first hits with teen-market rock & roll like “Splish Splash” and “Dream Lover”, covered Ray Charles without totally embarrassing himself (on the Atlantic R&B label no less), had an almost-bizarre fluke of a huge hit from musical theater (“Mack the Knife” originated in Weimar cabaret theatre, co-written by three Communists if you count the English adaptor, Marc Blitztein, along with German lyricist Bertold Brecht and composer Kurt Weill), covered more conventional Broadway show tunes, and in the wake of the ’60s counter-culture ended up doing credible folk-rock “protest” songs.

Darin was undoubtedly as notable for his ambition as his talent and he had that “Sammy Davis” quality of needing his audience a lot more than they needed him. But I’m glad to see him getting a bit of a comeback, even if he’s not around for it and the movie sort of sucks. Saw one of Darin’s last performances recently on a cheesy PBS fundraising marathon, and whatever else you might say about him, he was a natural entertainer, a better singer than I’d remembered and he was able to span generations and genres of music with an ease that I was too young to appreciate when he was alive.

]]> By: Thomas Kelly http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6639 Thomas Kelly Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6639 My god your hair resembles Warren Beatty's in Shampoo. ROFL! My god your hair resembles Warren Beatty’s in Shampoo. ROFL!

]]> By: jim hitchcock http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6640 jim hitchcock Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6640 Man, that was low....funny, but low. Man, that was low….funny, but low.

]]> By: Marc Cooper http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6641 Marc Cooper Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6641 I wish... Looks more like Kevin Spacey playing Bobby Darin! I wish… Looks more like Kevin Spacey playing Bobby Darin!

]]> By: rosedog http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6642 rosedog Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6642 "Unfortunately for me, those held notes at the end of phrases sounded like they were crawling off somewhere to die." Excellent line, Randy! I want to steal it immediately. (But I sense it's going to be tough to work into conversations as often as it deserves.) “Unfortunately for me, those held notes at the end of phrases sounded like they were crawling off somewhere to die.”

Excellent line, Randy! I want to steal it immediately. (But I sense it’s going to be tough to work into conversations as often as it deserves.)

]]> By: Bonnie (Willits) Spolin http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6643 Bonnie (Willits) Spolin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6643 Marc....What times, what memories! Had to tell Neil all about it this morning! Remember Sal Orifice? Gene Stone, Don Randi, etc.? Marc….What times, what memories! Had to tell Neil all about it this morning!

Remember Sal Orifice? Gene Stone, Don Randi, etc.?

]]> By: Bonnie (Willits) Spolin http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6644 Bonnie (Willits) Spolin Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6644 Marc....What times, what memories! Had to tell Neil all about it this morning! Remember Sal Orifice? Gene Stone, Don Randi, etc.? Marc….What times, what memories! Had to tell Neil all about it this morning!

Remember Sal Orifice? Gene Stone, Don Randi, etc.?

]]> By: Marc Cooper http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6645 Marc Cooper Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6645 Don Randi.. appearing nightly at The Baked Potato! Don Randi.. appearing nightly at The Baked Potato!

]]> By: Carrie http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6646 Carrie Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6646 Don Randi.. appearing nightly at The Baked Potato! Anyone remember Seawind, played Monday nights at TBP? (As long as we are (s)trolling down memory lane! Don Randi.. appearing nightly at The Baked Potato! Anyone remember Seawind, played Monday nights at TBP? (As long as we are (s)trolling down memory lane!

]]> By: steve http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6647 steve Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6647 Listening to an NPR interview Terri Gross did with Darin's producer about 5 years ago, it is obvious that if Darin were alive today he'd be trashed thoroughly by FOX News and Clear Channel personalities as a leftist anti-war celebrity sticking his nose into politics where it doesn't belong. The interview is excellent, highly recommend it... Listening to an NPR interview Terri Gross did with Darin’s producer about 5 years ago, it is obvious that if Darin were alive today he’d be trashed thoroughly by FOX News and Clear Channel personalities as a leftist anti-war celebrity sticking his nose into politics where it doesn’t belong.

The interview is excellent, highly recommend it…

]]> By: Marc Cooper http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6648 Marc Cooper Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6648 Carrie... oops.. whats TBP? Carrie… oops.. whats TBP?

]]> By: steve http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6649 steve Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6649 The Terri Gross interview I mentioned: rtsp://real.npr.na-central.speedera.net:80/real.npr.na-central/fa/20041224_fa_02.rm The Terri Gross interview I mentioned:

rtsp://real.npr.na-central.speedera.net:80/real.npr.na-central/fa/20041224_fa_02.rm

]]> By: jim hitchcock http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6650 jim hitchcock Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6650 TBP = The Barking Pig (0lde English Pub) TBP = The Barking Pig (0lde English Pub)

]]> By: Carrie http://marccooper.com/beyond-the-sea-bobby-darin-and-charlie-manson-and-me/comment-page-1/#comment-6651 Carrie Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.laweekly.com/marccooper/?p=251#comment-6651 TBP, as posted above, The Baked Potato. TBP, as posted above, The Baked Potato.

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