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For one, whatever else one has to say about the blogging, e-mail, and the rest, they require reading and writing. Back in the seventies and eighties, talk of a post-literate age was rife. While annoying acronyms abound, and that far from making me ROTFLMFAO, they make me cringe, reading and writing is still a requirement, even if our epistolary skills are somewhat short of eighteenth century authors.

The other is that television today is far, far more interesting than it’s been at any time in my life. I went to film school, and most of us turned up our noses at TV. I could write a very long list, but I’ll limit it to two. The first is “The Daily Show”, which is a prolonged invitation to reconsider the masticated semi-information that most news media provide us. The second is the retooled “Battlestar Gallatica” — the original was a brain-dead idiocy (with some pre-Reagan era anti detente propaganda thrown in). The new version is something else again — a novelistic look at how socieities cope with extreme stress.

I’m not saying we wouldn’t all benefit from Postman’s media fast idea. But I’ve spent my life listening to people saying that things we’re better twenty years prior, and I’m really not at all sure that’s true. In terms of challenging mass media, I think we may be a lot better off than we were in the era of “Dallas” and “Top Gun.”

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