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		<dc:creator>leftside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 06:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT: Have I got this right? It is necessary and legal for country &quot;A&quot; to kill anyone it determines to be a threat, anywhere in the world (without trial). And it is necessary and legal for country &quot;B&quot; to attack a country it determines to be a threat - even if they admit the threat is only speculative and in the future. However, if you are countries &quot;C&quot; or &quot;D,&quot; and facing a armed group of (foreign-backed) sectarian rebels (what we simply call &quot;terrorists&quot; in most other contexts), you don&#039;t even have the right to take back a neighborhood in your 3rd largest city, taken through force?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT: Have I got this right? It is necessary and legal for country &#8220;A&#8221; to kill anyone it determines to be a threat, anywhere in the world (without trial). And it is necessary and legal for country &#8220;B&#8221; to attack a country it determines to be a threat &#8211; even if they admit the threat is only speculative and in the future. However, if you are countries &#8220;C&#8221; or &#8220;D,&#8221; and facing a armed group of (foreign-backed) sectarian rebels (what we simply call &#8220;terrorists&#8221; in most other contexts), you don&#8217;t even have the right to take back a neighborhood in your 3rd largest city, taken through force?</p>
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		<dc:creator>leftside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 06:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Times is actually a very good paper... maybe it is because I compare it to the Chicago Tribune I grew up on. Angelenos who read the NY Times piss me off more than non-newspaper readers. It is a tone thing (NYT is too know it all...)

The future is not some snarky digi thing that promises investigative journalism but is really just derivative crap by writers who can&#039;t get a job at a major newspaper. The future is probably even worse for journalism , but we can make the decent last a little bit longer by supporting good hometown newspapers. 

I&#039;m constantly impressed by</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Times is actually a very good paper&#8230; maybe it is because I compare it to the Chicago Tribune I grew up on. Angelenos who read the NY Times piss me off more than non-newspaper readers. It is a tone thing (NYT is too know it all&#8230;)</p>
<p>The future is not some snarky digi thing that promises investigative journalism but is really just derivative crap by writers who can&#8217;t get a job at a major newspaper. The future is probably even worse for journalism , but we can make the decent last a little bit longer by supporting good hometown newspapers. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m constantly impressed by</p>
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		<dc:creator>Free Alternatives to the LA Times Paywall &#124; FlashReport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 16:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that by not supporting the Times I am not backing &#8216;good journalism,&#8217;&#8221; Cooper wrote. &#8220;Bullshit. Fill that paper, or fill that web page with great content I really can’t get [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that by not supporting the Times I am not backing &#8216;good journalism,&#8217;&#8221; Cooper wrote. &#8220;Bullshit. Fill that paper, or fill that web page with great content I really can’t get [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing the Times could do, rather than focus on the Beltway or try to &quot;out-Times&quot; the NYT in Europe, the Middle East or Asia - or just do a local or West Coast focus - is staff some bureaus in Latin America with young and/or experienced reporters and become the prime US source for interpretation of the countries and continent to the South.  It would make sense in terms of the geography and demographics and could bring back some sense of value to the LAT that set it apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing the Times could do, rather than focus on the Beltway or try to &#8220;out-Times&#8221; the NYT in Europe, the Middle East or Asia &#8211; or just do a local or West Coast focus &#8211; is staff some bureaus in Latin America with young and/or experienced reporters and become the prime US source for interpretation of the countries and continent to the South.  It would make sense in terms of the geography and demographics and could bring back some sense of value to the LAT that set it apart.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Brad in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 06:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having resisted my union&#039;s (UTLA) call to cancel The Times, maintaining my print subscription, I am apparently &quot;grandfathered inside&quot; the new firewall for free, so I can continue to access Times content online as long as I keep paying for my print subscription. 

I guess old habits die hard. All my life (mid-50&#039;s) I have read a newspaper in the morning, from the sports reports and comics in my youth to the whole enchilada as an adult. The decline of The Times and its brethren is undeniable. It barely covers California any more. The op-ed writers are predictable and banal. Paul Conrad was irreplaceable. Celebrity has supplanted journalism in practically every sphere.

And yet, I wish them well on a successful transition to the new world of news and information. Professionalism matters. If no one is &quot;keeping the gate&quot; then all manner of idiocy pollutes the public sphere. 

Unfortunately, if the car dealers and the supermarkets and Donald Sterling and the gold dealers figure out an alternative advertising strategy, then The Times as we know it is doomed. And we will all be the poorer for its demise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having resisted my union&#8217;s (UTLA) call to cancel The Times, maintaining my print subscription, I am apparently &#8220;grandfathered inside&#8221; the new firewall for free, so I can continue to access Times content online as long as I keep paying for my print subscription. </p>
<p>I guess old habits die hard. All my life (mid-50&#8242;s) I have read a newspaper in the morning, from the sports reports and comics in my youth to the whole enchilada as an adult. The decline of The Times and its brethren is undeniable. It barely covers California any more. The op-ed writers are predictable and banal. Paul Conrad was irreplaceable. Celebrity has supplanted journalism in practically every sphere.</p>
<p>And yet, I wish them well on a successful transition to the new world of news and information. Professionalism matters. If no one is &#8220;keeping the gate&#8221; then all manner of idiocy pollutes the public sphere. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, if the car dealers and the supermarkets and Donald Sterling and the gold dealers figure out an alternative advertising strategy, then The Times as we know it is doomed. And we will all be the poorer for its demise.</p>
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		<dc:creator>rottin' cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 04:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ways around it, just for the tuck of it: Delete cookies, use proxies.</description>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Schubb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 23:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the LA Times were offering an ad-free site for online subscribers, I might consider that.   But I can&#039;t imagine paying to be bombarded by aggressive flash ads and pop-ups -- among the worst in journalism -- to access  remnants of a once-great newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the LA Times were offering an ad-free site for online subscribers, I might consider that.   But I can&#8217;t imagine paying to be bombarded by aggressive flash ads and pop-ups &#8212; among the worst in journalism &#8212; to access  remnants of a once-great newspaper.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, here&#039;s an argument that this is a good thing.  The existing business model is, of course, based on ad revenue.  I don&#039;t have any particular expertise in newspaper economics, but I bet that subscription costs for people who buy pulp copies just about cover the physical distribution costs; they are not really paying for the content.  The most ad-and product-placement-friendly sections of the paper, like the several real estate sections, the several autos sections, travel, etc., are crowding out the serious content, as Marc notes.  A reader-paid model might allow more serious, less advertiser-oriented content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, here&#8217;s an argument that this is a good thing.  The existing business model is, of course, based on ad revenue.  I don&#8217;t have any particular expertise in newspaper economics, but I bet that subscription costs for people who buy pulp copies just about cover the physical distribution costs; they are not really paying for the content.  The most ad-and product-placement-friendly sections of the paper, like the several real estate sections, the several autos sections, travel, etc., are crowding out the serious content, as Marc notes.  A reader-paid model might allow more serious, less advertiser-oriented content.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 05:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happened across this graph of newspaper ad revenue today:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/the-collapse-of-print-advertising-in-1-graph/253736/

In the early-to-mid 90s, the LAT was competitive with the NYT, and a refreshing change of pace (e.g., some really long stories, and good multipart investigative pieces).  But that was a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happened across this graph of newspaper ad revenue today:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/the-collapse-of-print-advertising-in-1-graph/253736/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/02/the-collapse-of-print-advertising-in-1-graph/253736/</a></p>
<p>In the early-to-mid 90s, the LAT was competitive with the NYT, and a refreshing change of pace (e.g., some really long stories, and good multipart investigative pieces).  But that was a long time ago.</p>
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		<dc:creator>L.A. Times must think they&#039;re WSJ or NYT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] since they continue to ax worthwhile sections of the paper it unique.Marc Cooper tells the dismal tale of this once superior newspaper that, thanks to Sam Zell buying it, is now little better than [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hartford Courant, &quot;the oldest continually publishing newspaper in the country&quot; is also owned by the Tribune. It&#039;s microscopic both in size and in content now. A few years back they fired a reporter who did an unfavorable story about a big advertiser. #fishwrap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hartford Courant, &#8220;the oldest continually publishing newspaper in the country&#8221; is also owned by the Tribune. It&#8217;s microscopic both in size and in content now. A few years back they fired a reporter who did an unfavorable story about a big advertiser. #fishwrap</p>
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		<dc:creator>Donna B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least they&#039;re taking a chance, for a change. Boston and Philly tried this last year - don&#039;t know if they&#039;re still behind a wall.

Also, you forgot no editorial cartoonist who even lives on the west coast for the Times. This makes them feel more cool and East Coast.

And McClatchy has no money, none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least they&#8217;re taking a chance, for a change. Boston and Philly tried this last year &#8211; don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;re still behind a wall.</p>
<p>Also, you forgot no editorial cartoonist who even lives on the west coast for the Times. This makes them feel more cool and East Coast.</p>
<p>And McClatchy has no money, none.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just after I clicked &#039;Submit&#039; on my comment, I remembered about an early Internet newspaper experiment, called the &quot;Nando Times&quot;, which I think was a McClatchy venture.  Anyone else remember it?  I know I looked at it regularly when it was online, but it&#039;s gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just after I clicked &#8216;Submit&#8217; on my comment, I remembered about an early Internet newspaper experiment, called the &#8220;Nando Times&#8221;, which I think was a McClatchy venture.  Anyone else remember it?  I know I looked at it regularly when it was online, but it&#8217;s gone.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 07:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The San Jose Mercury News used to be a very good newspaper, now it&#039;s mostly a load of shit.

The (print) news industry obviously got caught flat-footed by the whole Internet thing, but how do they recover, or adapt? 

Am I wrong, or did the newspapers largely rely on classified ads for their income, which was basically nuked from orbit by  sites like Craigslist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The San Jose Mercury News used to be a very good newspaper, now it&#8217;s mostly a load of shit.</p>
<p>The (print) news industry obviously got caught flat-footed by the whole Internet thing, but how do they recover, or adapt? </p>
<p>Am I wrong, or did the newspapers largely rely on classified ads for their income, which was basically nuked from orbit by  sites like Craigslist?</p>
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		<dc:creator>dave blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, it&#039;s nervy, and it&#039;s hard to see the value argument. They&#039;re surely betting that this is the only way to capitalize on the print monopoly they&#039;ve worked so hard and long cultivating. But look around, there&#039;s AOL Patches all over LA, and though they probably don&#039;t offer any more than the thin gruel the Patches in the Bay Area offer, they offer SOMEthing, they offer it free, they offer a sense of local community that invites people to participate, and they have a totally different business model that stands a dedidedly better chance to succeed than the LA Times model. Wherever Zell goes, he tries to cash in in the short term, and leave barely pulsing, debt-saddled corpses behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, it&#8217;s nervy, and it&#8217;s hard to see the value argument. They&#8217;re surely betting that this is the only way to capitalize on the print monopoly they&#8217;ve worked so hard and long cultivating. But look around, there&#8217;s AOL Patches all over LA, and though they probably don&#8217;t offer any more than the thin gruel the Patches in the Bay Area offer, they offer SOMEthing, they offer it free, they offer a sense of local community that invites people to participate, and they have a totally different business model that stands a dedidedly better chance to succeed than the LA Times model. Wherever Zell goes, he tries to cash in in the short term, and leave barely pulsing, debt-saddled corpses behind.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dios mio,  I feel guilty reading your blog for free,  Cooper.  I owe you at least a few Pisco Sours.</description>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about we send GM a beret for his birthday?</description>
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		<dc:creator>ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 00:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Up until now I&#039;ve been willing to listen to GM Roper- after all dude runs a political blog of sorts. No more. My muckraking sources tell me that he once spoke French!</description>
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		<dc:creator>Al in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is one of the most noxious proposals w/r/t the internet that has ever been.&quot;

That&#039;s an understatement! A great blog to keep up with all things SOPA/PIPA.

http://www.techdirt.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is one of the most noxious proposals w/r/t the internet that has ever been.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an understatement! A great blog to keep up with all things SOPA/PIPA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.techdirt.com/</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT, but I strongly encourage all of you to contact your Senators and Reps about SOPA. This is one of the most noxious proposals w/r/t the internet that has ever been. It is a regime for censoring the internet at the behest of the music and movie industries, and it&#039;s a perfect example of the corruption of our politics.

It threatens to break the internet...really, that&#039;s not an exaggeration. It&#039;s destructive of interntet innovation, and odious in a bunch of different ways.

Here is a technical article on the issues: http://is.gd/wbfR23

And here is the EFF giving a broad overview: http://is.gd/aN0K9x

Sorry for hijacking the thread in this way, but this is a exceptionally serious issue that is receiving very little attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, but I strongly encourage all of you to contact your Senators and Reps about SOPA. This is one of the most noxious proposals w/r/t the internet that has ever been. It is a regime for censoring the internet at the behest of the music and movie industries, and it&#8217;s a perfect example of the corruption of our politics.</p>
<p>It threatens to break the internet&#8230;really, that&#8217;s not an exaggeration. It&#8217;s destructive of interntet innovation, and odious in a bunch of different ways.</p>
<p>Here is a technical article on the issues: <a href="http://is.gd/wbfR23" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/wbfR23</a></p>
<p>And here is the EFF giving a broad overview: <a href="http://is.gd/aN0K9x" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/aN0K9x</a></p>
<p>Sorry for hijacking the thread in this way, but this is a exceptionally serious issue that is receiving very little attention.</p>
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