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good one. For all my tough talk it is just that. I haven’t lifted a finger to lift a gun or anything – yet here I am. I remember during WWII how baseball greats left everything to serve…today, it’s the poor college hopefuls. The main reason I hate Bush now is because he runs the war the way he does and with the vulnrable people that we see so gung-ho’ed in the Army commercials.

The level of discipline in the military with the industrial-complex as it is is very high, yet the command-and-control from the executive branch has basically left the building after WWII because the military is so complex, not to mention our enemies.

They will learn how to intectually fortify thier walls of denial which they will find equally helpful at both speaking engagements and dinner parties when confronted with thier crimes against humanity and the irreparable damage which they did to the US.

Hopefully, Hank will have some tips for Bush and Dick on how to exorcise the ghosts of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, tens of thousands of Afghanis and tens of thousands of American that they sent to the Next world – a world full of anxiety for George Jr and Sr,. Richard and Hank, who no doubt occasionally and sometimes ponder the veracity of thier tenuous religious beliefs.

In short, these scum who have risen to the top are not immune to the same self-doubt and loathing (if they’re susceptible to such moments of clarity) as we are – ONLY GLOBALLY SO!

Dis-subscribe from the confluence of the ideology of greed and the curse of privelige and your road to enlightment will be a bit easier than Hank’s, Dick’s and Bush’s…

These folks have no shame…

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2006_10/009609.php

I am. I’m equally pissed at the fact that Rumsfeld said on 9/9/01 that he would urge the president to veto a defense appropriations bill if money wasn’t diverted from anti-terrorism programs to the missile defense system and that Ashcroft on 9/10/01 sent a budget request to OMB that made no virtually no mention of counter-terrorism except to eliminate million for counter-terrorism equipment grants and “did not recommend the budget enhancements requested by the FBI for ‘Foreign Language Services,’ ‘Counter-terrorism Field Investigations,’ and ‘Intelligence Production (Field and HQs Intelligence Research Specialists),’ totaling ,814,000?”

This was, of course after the 8/6/01 PDB. It took 9/11 for them to take terrorism seriously. The very definition of dereliction of duty.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7292279546899698502&q=bob+wright

What kind of people are we dealing with ?

Okay, I know. I know. But somehow the more we learn about them there appears to be less and less of any sense of complexity and more evidence of sheer mendacity and incompetence.

” Expect the Middle Eastern countries to help us at the level we need?” That’s pretty loaded. Do you mean, do I expect them
to allow us in to kill anyone we decide, for instance, is dangerous? No. For a moment, let’s talk about what WE might do. We reject “cut and run.” We reject the Bush approach, a system which really only asks scarifice from those who, for whatever reason, voluntered for the Military( while in fact doing everything possible to make the most comfortable elements of society more comfortable).

This leaves us with the option of designing a national program of service, based on attainable goals and mutual sacrifice; to make the world as safe from murderous religious fanatics as possible. Come on down and get your orders, you may be serving next to Tiger Woods or Ashton Kutchner.

Crazy? Maybe. But if you’re going to look at this thing honestly; you need to admit the diference between the two camps is “cut and run” and “cut and bleed”; the latter being more expensive in terms of money and lives. But it’s still “cut” and it always was, because it’s still Rumsfeld’s war on the cheap.

Beyond that; we must note the unforgivable squandering of post 9-11 goodwill in the international community; AND the fact that we no doubt ruined the chance all progressive elements in Iran, and go back to square one and start being more not stupid. You can’t believe in the area of diplomacy and intellegence we can’t deal ourselves a better hand.

It’s a little long, but you could fit it on a bumper sticker. Dems 06: START BEING MORE NOT STUPID.

If it forces the Republican party to play defense for a week or so and puts a crimp in their fearmongering, it does have some impact. It might not change many minds but it can get the talking heads taliking and slow down Rove’s machine.

you said:

“Since programs of attempting international cooperation in chasing down the dangerous are obviously the notions of bed weting cut and runners..”.

Forget the name calling of “cut and runners”, do you or anyone else here expect Middle Eastern countries to help us at the level we need? What do we have to offer them (other than awful wars that show how stupid we act?) I am at a wit’s end as to what to do; attacking Iraq isn’t the right answer (assuming links to Saddam don’t amount to anything of the level of Iran’s collaboration with Hizbollah), but the only regimes/militias willing to help us – namely the Kurds, the Afgans (run by progenators of the Northern Alliance and former rulers before the warlords), and Iraqi secularists trying to run the country – are willing to be our friends because they are underdogs in the Middle East.

The big fish – Iran, Northern Pakistan and the ISI’s unsavory foggy bottom, and Saddam would never help as not only are we antagonistic to their own imperial goals, but to ther backward thoughts on why they are ordained (laugh at similarities to GW) as leaders of not only their Islamic purees but as leaders of the Islamic parties of the entire Muslim world? They simply don’t want we have to ffer them. Assuming we act diplomatic for the long hault, we surely can expect them to harbor Islamic terrorists, and we will have nothing to offer the leaders to turn them over when, for people like Ahmadinejad, playing to their ideals helps their rule?

” Expect the Middle Eastern countries to help us at the level we need?” That’s pretty loaded. Do you mean, do I expect them
to allow us in to kill anyone we decide, for instance, is dangerous? No. For a moment, let’s talk about what WE might do. We reject “cut and run.” We reject the Bush approach, a system which really only asks scarifice from those who, for whatever reason, voluntered for the Military( while in fact doing everything possible to make the most comfortable elements of society more comfortable).

This leaves us with the option of designing a national program of service, based on attainable goals and mutual sacrifice; to make the world as safe from murderous religious fanatics as possible. Come on down and get your orders, you may be serving next to Tiger Woods or Ashton Kutchner.

Crazy? Maybe. But if you’re going to look at this thing honestly; you need to admit the diference between the two camps is “cut and run” and “cut and bleed”; the latter being more expensive in terms of money and lives. But it’s still “cut” and it always was, because it’s still Rumsfeld’s war on the cheap.

Beyond that; we must note the unforgivable squandering of post 9-11 goodwill in the international community; AND the fact that we no doubt ruined the chance all progressive elements in Iran, and go back to square one and start being more not stupid. You can’t believe in the area of diplomacy and intellegence we can’t deal ourselves a better hand.

It’s a little long, but you could fit it on a bumper sticker. Dems 06: START BEING MORE NOT STUPID.