Some of the most corrupt presidents we have had who allowed big business to run the white house during the Gilded Age (Grover Cleveland, William McKinley) came from humble beginnings…so too did Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, who both allowed corporations to run America. Myself, I would take a John Corzine, Ted Kennedy, or a John Edwards over a guy looking to exploit his or her office for the big financial windfall he or she has always been eyeing.

What more can possible be said about the stupidity, the ingnorance the insanity. You have cost many american lives and prolonged this war from the first day you assholes told the world we were tied down in a sandstorm. Tell me with idiots like you, what the fuck does the enemy need their own propaganda for.

Sorry Jim R, but that kind of anti-Americanism just doesn’t square with reality. If a war is necessary, as WWII certainly became, Americans like me will be there ready to fight it–no phoney Tillman or Lynch tales or made up WMD threats are needed.

Lies and cheerleading reporters were not necessary to motivate Americans to respond to Pearl Harbor or to Nazi aggression, because it was clear that the war was primarily an act of self-defense.

Jim R’s suggestion that we needed to be fooled about what happened in WWII is a profound insult to the 100,000 plus Americans who died liberating Europe from the Nazis and the Pacific from the Japanese.

By advocating government subterfuge and patsy journalism, Jim R, Woody and their ilk show flaunt their low view of Americans, their cynicism about democratic government and their core belief that a war like the one in Iraq requires the government to lie.