59 Responses to “BUY ATOMOXETINE NO PRESCRIPTION”

1. Anna Churchill Says:
   February 3rd, 2010 at 8:19 pm

   Hey ho! About bloody time. Thanks for that. Could never figure out why direct question and answer not written into law…that NO campaign ads should ever be allowed and that ALL elected officials had to submit to being challenged and outlining an agenda. The only thing a presidential et al campaign should be comprised of is relentless scrutiny through a questioning and debate process alongside a presentation of a platform that addresses a specific list of issues. How allowing the election and governing process not to be comprised of constant scrutiny is one of mysteries of what keeps getting touted as a “democracy”.

2. Anna Churchill Says:
   February 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 pm

   While in England I was told by one of the Question Time producers that they had tried to get Question Time in the US. Impossible. THen they did ONE on ever of 2004 election filmed in Florida. One saw how uncomfortable the Americans were having to be coherent extemporaneously and to expose themselves. Said everything about what a corrupt bought and paid for sham it all us. Hand wringing about journalism here is a lost cause.

   But interesting to see how novel the idea of open debate is here.

   Not interesting but astonishing.

3. Rob Grocholski Says:
   February 3rd, 2010 at 8:29 pm

   Brilliant.
   Shared-done.

4. Johnny Holmes Says:
   February 3rd, 2010 at 10:16 pm

   Signed. Good going Marc

5. Robert Fiore Says:
   February 3rd, 2010 at 11:54 pm

   My prediction: If this were to happen, we’d have Question Time — until a Republican president got elected. Then the traditional double standard would kick in.

6. Woody Says:
   February 4th, 2010 at 12:19 am

   Yes, I’ll sign it as soon as Obama fulfills his repeated pledges to have all health care negotiations on C-Span. Enough of his backroom, Chicago-style dealings to force through unpopular bills filled with favortism.

7. Woody Says:
   February 4th, 2010 at 1:04 am

   On the list: Michael Bassik, Former Chief Digital Officer of Air America

   What an honor it must be for many of you to be on a list with someone who has been part of a typically bankrupt liberal enterprise. If only the list actually contained a decent number of successful leaders of private enterprise who knew how to run a business and meet a payroll — something sorely lacking in Obama’s appointments.

   Of course, you want such an “open government.” First, Obama’s SOTU, which was supposed to further that, was pathetic, so he needs another chance, and another, and another. How many do-overs does he get?(BTW, CPAs’s everywhere keep wondering about this so-called capital gains tax on small businesses that Obama is going to cut. Where is that tax? That shows how little he and his staff know about businesses.)

   Also, Obama quit having press conferences last July. Why have those when this proposal would give him a chance to answer questions in a setting that he can control and where polite disagreements and follow-up questions are not permitted.

   You don’t think that everyone can see through this? Obama can be in the public eye all that he wants as it is. His lie that he didn’t properly explain health care to Americans is a joke given a President’s access ot the media. He has the power to end all of his contemptable secret meetings out of range of microphones. That way, his dealings would be exposed for all to judge.

   But, on the other hand, I’d like to judge him by what he does and his results rather than how clever he can be or how much he can mislead people in his promises.

   It’s time to stop simply feeling good about Obama’s image and time to deal realistically with his inexperience and damage to our nation…unless, that’s too inconvenient for you.

8. Jim R Says:
   February 4th, 2010 at 8:41 am

   I’m in. I loved this interchange between the President and the House Republicans. He handled himself very well and was treated with much respect, as we Americans expect expect our President to be treated.

   I have watched CSpan’s coverage of England’s Question Time. I would not want this Demand idea to degenerate into nasty dirty highly partisan rancor England has. It is a purely point scoring political event.

   Instead of Demand for Question Period, ie, make it law, I would rather keep it a grass roots peoples political pressure to encourage a President, the leader of the most power branch in our Republic form of government, to listen and respond to the opposition parties concerns and questions in an out-of-Washington annual venue.

   England’s is Law, I think, and it has turned into an ugly purely political free-for-all event.

   Please don’t feed the troll.

9. Woody Says:
   February 4th, 2010 at 8:54 am

   Yes, everyone please keep agreeing with each other. After all, if there’s no fair discussion or disagreement, then you all must be right. In fact, with everyone in agreement, there’s no need for this blog.

   Hey, wait. I think that a question and answer time with Obama would end up with people just like most here doing the asking. Obama considers the tea party movement as terrorist, so he would never take their questions.

   Don’t feed the troll, whoever he is.

10. johnny holmes Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Woody

    Personally I welcome an exchange of ideas with those who hold different views than I do. My circle of friends and family is hardly uniform left wing and we sometimes get into some very spirited arguments, especially around election time.

    But when you come off the wall with a comment that is totally irrelevant to the topic of the blog (February 4th, 2010 at 12:19 am) then you invite ridicule.

    Your second comment (February 4th, 2010 at 1:04 am), though at least somewhat relevant is a bit silly. You either ignored the fact that the list includes right wing as well as left wing pundits. You don’t consider Brent Bozell, Grover Norquist, and James Pinkerton to be Socialists do you?

11. Woody Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    Johnny, consider that 12:19 AM your time was 3:19 in the morning my time, and I was taking a work break, so I’m surprised my comment was coherent at all.

    But, the comment has plenty to do with Marc’s post. If you want openess and accountability, the place to start with Obama is to hold him to his campaign promises — not give him a patsy pass.

    Why, I remember that his press conferences were stacked with people who were his friends and with questions that he had been given in advance! We don’t need more of those. What I often point out are the options that are not addressed when they should be, and I don’t prefer questions and answers as much as a debate.

    On the second post, I didn’t say that everyone was left-wing and purposely acknowledged that there were some businessmen on the list. However, the list is overwhelmingly left-wing and by people who can’t run a company and certainly can’t run a nation. For them, I have little regard for what they want or think is best.

12. jim hitchcock Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    This may explain why Woody turned out the way he did

    http://tinyurl.com/yax2dql

13. jim hitchcock Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Hmmm, TinyURL does not seem to be working for me today:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/news/new_study_reveals_most_%20children

14. jim hitchcock Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Damn. One more time:

    http://tinyurl.com/yg7m2g2

15. Cappadonna Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    I’m down, but I honestly don’t see the GOP opening up themselves to that type public spanking again. And for all the junk many Net Roots types talk, I hardly think they want to get caught flat footed going toe to toe with Obama. Again, as SNL said, its like trying Aquaman to a fight in the ocean.

    The second problem is that the it really should be a Q&A with the people — not just a bunch of hacks in DC, professional activists types or talking heads on TV.

16. Rob Grocholski Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    Cappadonna
    I won’t say your pessimism isn’t well founded. The degree to which the minority opposition party has let themselves be taken over by the screamers is pretty disheartening. To torture a phrase, there isn’t much there…
    But if you did actually watch the footage of the President — yeah it’s over an hour 25 minutes long — one can not help but be impressed by the President’s determination to try to get the Republicans to engage. At the very least, if this exercise where repeated often enough, I’m willing to bet the American public would be able to make up it’s mind in an intelligent way as to who and which party is genuinely trying to tackle the nation’s problems.
    Just saying.

17. johnny holmes Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    Woody

    3:19am? Ouch No excuse to be working that late unless you’re a bartender or a musician .

    IMO the main point is whether or not it’s valuable to have the kind of free exchanges we saw between Obama and the Republican congressmen. I think it’s a great idea whether the President and congressional representatives are Democrat or Republican.

    All politicians should be able to present and defend their positions without the benefit of notes or moderators. We get to see how honest and direct they are and whether the hell they know what they’re talking about.

    I agree with you that there should be room for follow up and I think the exchange should run at least a couple hours. It’s my understanding that in this case the Republicans wanted to end it because they weren’t coming off too well.

    Now I also agree that REAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS are much more important than debates or discussions. And I for one believe Obama and the Democrats have fallen far short in this area. Undoubtedly your reasons for this are much much different than mine.

18. Rob Grocholski Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    btw, if this thing was compelling enough to get our conservative friend Jim R to sign on, hey, let’s take the victories where we can get them.

19. Anna Churchill Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    This does it…a petition is now going around to get Starbucks to stand up to the open carry laws. So far, unlike more progressive coffee shop chains, they have refused.

    In my view anyone who patronizes Starbucks should be shot. Their coffee tastes like shit.

20. Jim R Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    “It’s my understanding that in this case the Republicans wanted to end it because they weren’t coming off too well.”

    Did you even watch it Johnny? The President had to go. Both came off just fine.

    Every fucking thing in politics has to have a winner and a loser, which is what’s wrong with it…..and us.

21. Jim R Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    After all the President’s good effort, few souls have been saved.

22. reg Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    “After all the President’s good effort, few souls have been saved.”

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/02/gop-attacks-obama-for-spending.html

    The GOP are cheap, dishonest bastards (as are too many of the Dems). Now they’re preparing to block a vote of the majority to pass a jobs bill.

23. Cappadonna Says:
    February 4th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Jim R – Let’s keep it real, the GOP came with straw man talking points and the President danced around them or flat out squashed them. Obama came to debate, the Republican came with ‘gotcha’ sound bites.

24. Jim R Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 8:45 am

    How are you any different than Shawn Hannity reg? There is one difference, he has a megaphone to spew his unhinged right-wing biases and you only have blog comments to unhinge yours.

    So far gone it would never even occur to you some might think going into debt for another 1.9 Trillion dollars may not be the best way to create jobs. Some might think this is actually killing jobs.

    But they would be cheap dishonest bastards, the same reaction I got from my kids when they didn’t get the new bike.

    The Post article is more about out-of-control self-interested lifer career politicians getting rewarded by us for bringing home gifts from the crazy fucking Uncle in Washington, and the pig trough they wallow and fight in to do it. All you can see is your guy getting gored in the process.

    Start by listen to your own President, no hearing. You’re not helping.

25. Jim R Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Btw Mr. President. You don’t have to sign that debt bill. You could send it back and ask the leaders of Congress to go line-by-line with you, as you campaigned you would, through every government agency looking for overlapping programs and waste and fraud, plus Lordly travel and expense accounts.

    You could instantly make yourself a hero, unlike the last one you signed loaded with lard instead. You could separate yourself from the pack of pigs. You could make history in Washington for all time.

    But alas, though you mouth all the right words and sincerely I think, until you actually begin to show you are different, that you represent change, you will continue to be looked at as just another silver mouthed politician wallowing in the Washington slop.

26. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Jim – I’m afraid you’re the one who is unhinged here. I engage in a little satire against the troll and you go off like a fucking lunatic comparing me to Sean Hannity, who is one of the most dishonest, rancid far-right clowns on the TeeVee. You can shove that one…

    Maybe you’re just pissed off because you can’t really defend John McCain as anything but an opportunistic fuck who has so much contempt for his country he’d have been willing to see Sarah Palin in the White House if it gave him a shot at a few years of the power he so hungers for. Or because you have such a simplistic view of the Iraq war, you’re too embarrassed to discuss what happened there beyond cliche-mongering. Or because your “deficit hawkishness” is rooted in idiotic statements about the current job and stimulus proposals that even a conservative economist would be hard-pressed to defend. (Where is the demand coming from in a deep recession if not government spending – it’s been shown that tax cuts alone right now go largely into savings and paying off credit card debt, which doesn’t help stimulate the economy at this point in time one whit, i.e. “the paradox of thrift.”)

    The Post article was about the deep dishonesty that infects the GOP when they demagogue deficits out of one side of their mouth, slam Obama for unemployment out of the other, all the while clinging to their pork. The GOP brought us into the era of rising deficits, starting with Reagan. Tax cuts were a big part of the reason. A recent poll of GOP voters said they’d rather have tax cuts and rising deficits than raise taxes and pay down deficits. That is the worst hypocrisy. Cheney famously said “Reagan taught us deficits don’t matter.” Milton Friedman said he’ll take any tax cut, regardless of deficits. This is rank hypocrisy. You’re buying into their bullshit. You can trust Obama to do more about long-term deficits than the GOP – and it must start with getting the health-care system under control. That will never happen without a universal system and a certain amount of government regulation of the insurance companies, along with some standards and practices set for providers under the public insurance system. This is elementary stuff, but you are under the spell of the demagogues. Don’t insult me with your “Sean Hannity” shit. Those guys are shameless ideologues and you can’t find one damned thing I’ve put up here, ever, that’s rooted in ideology over pragmatic solutions. I am NOT a socialist. But guys’ like Hannity fetishize “free markets” to the point that they tell lies in order to defend their ideology. I AM a partisan Democrat, because I’ve seen the destruction the GOP has wrought when they’re in power. Including rising deficits – as % opf GDP – for the first time since WWII and the Depression. Reagan started it. Because he was an ideologue like Sean Hannity. Genial guy. Terrible fucking president and no “fiscal conservative.” Profligate as hell. That’s just a fact. W Bush pretty much sent the country into the toilet, domestically and internationally. So I’ll stick with the Democrats, despite the fact that way too many of them also suck. And, frankly, that’s generally because they’re not liberals, but “Blue Dogs” playing both ends against the middle. (See “Blue Dog” Ben Nelson or Evan Bayh, both of whom are almost as hypocritical as Shelby when it comes to fiscal “conservatism.”)

27. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Jim R – Obama HAS gone line-by-line. You want him to walk on water because he’s a Democrat and apparently has to prove something to guys like you, but you characters ahve given every pass to Bush when he was driving the country into much bigger debt and waging a fucking war based on a lie. Nice.

28. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 9:53 am

    Jim – our government is not a dictatorship by the President. He has to get congress to pass his bills. If you can point to any Presidency – any major bill, actually – wherein the ability of legislators to shape the spending toward their home-district interests was eradicated, let me know. I’m sure Ronald Reagan must have performed this magic, because he was…uh…a god. Also no doubt Bush Jr. ended the practice because he was such a folksy character in touch with the common man.

    You’ve got a special bar you want Obama to jump over, even though he’s inherited the biggest messes domestically and globally of any Prez since FDR. Get off the high horse.

29. Woody Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Who knew?! Really, why haven’t we seen this?

    …American liberals, to a degree far surpassing conservatives, appear committed to the proposition that their views are correct, self-evident, and based on fact and reason, while conservative positions are not just wrong but illegitimate, ideological and unworthy of serious consideration.

30. Dan O Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 10:01 am

    You could instantly make yourself a hero, unlike the last one you signed loaded with lard instead. You could separate yourself from the pack of pigs. You could make history in Washington for all time.

    Also, Obama addressed this by saying that we were in such a dire state on the first bill that we absolutely needed to get money flowing to prevent a slde into depression. Your rant could use a little more context.

31. Anna Churchill Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    # Woody Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Who knew?! Really, why haven’t we seen this?

    …American liberals, to a degree far surpassing conservatives, appear committed to the proposition that their views are correct, self-evident, and based on fact and reason, while conservative positions are not just wrong but illegitimate, ideological and unworthy of serious consideration.

    Yes, Woody. Why haven’t you?

32. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    Simple answers to stupid questinos –

    Why are liberals so condescending ?

    Because of the prevalence of bigoted morons like you and “leaders” and “pundits” like Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity among today’s most vocal faux-conservatives.

33. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    Jim R – here’s some food for thought on the deficit issue. Get a grip…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/opinion/05krugman.html

34. Woody Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    On this day in history….1917: Congress passes the Immigration Act of February 5, 1917 [overriding Wilson's veto], excluding illiterate aliens from entry and restricting Asian immigration.

    More…This act added to the number of undesirables banned from entering the country, including but not limited to “idiots”, “feeble-minded persons”, “criminals”, “epileptics”, “insane persons”, alcoholics, “professional beggars”, all persons “mentally or physically defective”, polygamists, and anarchists.

    No wonder a Democratic president vetoed the bill. It went against most Democratic voters and future supporters.

35. Woody Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    A little clarification on reg’s Krugman, whom he takes seriously, from the article that I linked above.

    It follows that the thinkers, politicians and citizens who advance conservative ideas must be dupes, quacks or hired guns selling stories they know to be a sham. In this spirit, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman regularly dismisses conservative arguments not simply as incorrect, but as lies. Writing last summer, Krugman pondered the duplicity he found evident in 35 years’ worth of Wall Street Journal editorial writers. “What do these people really believe? I mean, they’re not stupid — life would be a lot easier if they were. So they know they’re not telling the truth. But they obviously believe that their dishonesty serves a higher truth. . . . The question is, what is that higher truth?”

    In Krugman’s world, there is no need to take seriously the arguments of “these people” — only to plumb the depths of their errors and imagine hidden motives.

36. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Unless you can argue against Krugman’s points, shut up. You post crap from the Sun Myung Moon Washington Times and some half-baked ideologue with a chip on his shoulder from the American Enterprise Institute.

    You’re a fucking moron. Not fit to shine Krugman’s shoes. I don’t feel condescension so much as contempt for your bigotry and ignorant ad hominem nattering.

37. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Krugman, incidentally, was 100% right about the dishonest trashmongers at the WSJ editorial page. Some of the worst “pundits” on the planet, trafficking in deliberate dishonesty and the most dogmatic “free-market” ideology. I’d put them up there with the old Daily Worker as shameless propagandists.

38. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Nice to see Woody defending Asian exclusion in our immigration laws.

39. Woody Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    Unless you can argue against Krugman’s [Woody's] points, shut up.

    - – -

    A student at Georgia Tech was attacked yesterday by a former student wielding a samurai sword. Normally, without immigration, that would never happen in America.

40. Woody Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    The Pope and Nancy Pelosi are on stage in front of a huge crowd.

    The Pope leaned towards Mrs. Pelosi and said, “Do you know that with one little wave of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, like that of your followers, but go deep into their hearts and for the rest of their lives, whenever they speak of this day, they will rejoice!”

    Pelosi replied, “I seriously doubt that…with one little wave of your hand? Show me.”

    So the Pope slapped her.

41. Anna Churchill Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Woody, no doubt the 10 American ‘christians’ in Haiti trawling for children to exploit are your brethren.

42. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    What’s your point ? Asian exclusion ?

43. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    Obama and press conferences (one of Troll Boy’s “points” :

    Only George W. Bush (5), Ronald Reagan (7), and Richard Nixon (8) held fewer solo press conferences through their first year in office.

44. Bob Williams Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    That’s a remarkable coalition, Cooper.

45. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Just for the record, Woody is supporting Richard Shelby holding every nominee of Obama’s hostage so that Airbus, a FRENCH corporation, gets military contracts and Boeing is excluded from the bidding process. That’s right – Woody is supporting a blockade of any and all Obama nominations until the Cheese-Eating-Surrender-Monkeys get their tails in the door with Richard Shelby’s help. Shocking! Next he’ll be dipping his pork rinds in foie gras during the SuperBowl and washing them down with Fischer La Belle Alsace.

46. Anna Churchill Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    reg, bubba, pace yourself. All signs point to the slavering class clawing and clammering with more vigor until they fall screeching from the parapets. It will get worse and more surreal before The US turns a corner and pathology will no longer be the norm.

    relax, enjoy, feed stray animals and send money to Haiti. Thats what I am doing.

47. Randy Paul Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    When one reads some the trollbait nonsense, above, its worth pointing out the truth is a fine antidote to asininity:

    The motto of the 442nd Regimental Combat Team was “go for broke.” It’s a gambling term that means risking everything on one great effort to win big. The soldiers of the 442nd needed to win big. They were Nisei – American-born sons of Japanese immigrants. They fought two wars: the Germans in Europe and the prejudice in America.

    The motto was invented by the high-rolling Nisei soldiers who came from the Hawaiian Islands. The Hawaii-born Nisei, also known as “Buddhaheads,” made up about two-thirds of the regiment. The remaining third were Nisei from the mainland. In April 1943, the islanders and mainlanders arrived for training at Camp Shelby, Mississippi. Immediately, they fought with each other because of different perspectives based on where they grew up.

    [...]

    The 442nd Regimental Combat Team was the most decorated unit for its size and length of service, in the entire history of the U.S. Military. The 4,000 men who initially came in April 1943 had to be replaced nearly 3.5 times. In total, about 14,000 men served, ultimately earning 9,486 Purple Hearts , 21 Medals of Honor and an unprecedented eight Presidential Unit Citations.

    Truth to bullshit. The truth wins again.

48. Anna Churchill Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Randy, you are just taking the bait. Dignifying the undignifiable. (Is there sucha word?)

    here is something:

    http://boldprogressives.org/home.html

49. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    AC – I’m enjoying taking pot shots with the BB gun at annoying rodents today…

50. Randy Paul Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Actually Anna, I’m just gently pointing to the truth.

51. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Note – that “rodent” line was NOT directed at Jim R, who I also enjoy screwing with. But Jim R is not a troll, just a guy who confuses his relatively decent intentions with good policy. Big difference and I apologize to Jim if he thought I was putting him in the same barrel as TrollBoy. I have deep differences with Jim – I think he clings to simplistic “solutions”, but I don’t hold him in contempt. I’ll admit to being rude, but it’s not intended as a dismissal. Just “the way I roll” when confronted with what I perceive as nonsense. I’m sure he gets that by now.

52. Woody Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    reg, is that you with whom I’m arguing on another site?

    From article: “…to help a foreign company.”

    Woody: That statement is completely wrong. It shows a bias and intentional deceit.

    reg twin: Slightly.

    Woody: Slightly? It came from Kos and is only “slightly” deceitful? Shelby is defending his state’s interests, not a foreign company.

    —–

    Woody: Sen. Shelby is trying to help U.S. taxpayers and workers in his state and is trying to get the Obama government to play fair on the contract.

    reg twin: True, it is simply a side effect that it will put money in a foreign company’s profits.

    Woody: Since when has the “foreign company” excluded U.S. shareholders? There will be huge financial gains in our nation through construction, workers, and taxes.

    A “side effect” is that Boeing’s monopoly within the U.S. will be challenged with workers from another part of our nation. Of course, Democratic repesentatives have compared Southern workers to Bubbas in a garage and said that they aren’t qualified. But, as we’re seeing, workers in Alabama produce “foreign” cars better than heavy-unionized Detroit produce domestic models.

    - – -

    Woody: The Pentagon originally awarded the contract to build new Air Force tankers to a joint venture with a company in L.A., and the plane is to be built in Mobile, Alabama, where, by the way, U.S. workers live.

    reg twin: Yep.

    Woody: Might I add, non-union workers.

    - – -

    Woody: That plane is far superior to the one that Boeing proposed. It’s larger, more cost effective, and won’t be delayed like Boeing’s because of problems with Boeing’s plane.

    After losing, Boeing went to court and whined to a bunch of weasley, crooked politicians who made the Pentagon throw out the award and rebid it with criteria tailored to Boeing.

    reg twin: Nope. Boeing filed a compaint that the Airbus wasn’t to the RFP specks, and it worked its way through the courts and won.

    Not political, legal.

    Woody: I notice that you didn’t dispute the part about Northrup’s plane being the best for the Air Force or that Boeing is having major problems with their plane–not that it should matter to you, as it only involves our military.

    As I remember, the court never ruled on this. The Pentagon caved to political pressure before it came to that. THAT is political. Also, political is changing the rules to help Boeing and sharing winning bid details with Boeing but not sharing Boeing bid details with Northrop. This is also part of paying back the unions for their support of Obama. Not political?

    - – -

    Woody: It’s not Shelby holding things up. Those planes should already be in production. The people responsible for the holds are the ones who don’t mind screwing the taxpayers and moving the awarded bid for their own special interests.

    reg twin: That’s the dumbest spin I’ve ever seen.

    Woody: No, without interference by the Democrats, we would never have come to this point. It’s just like a liberal to think that everyone should roll over to give them what they want and blame others who defend themselves. If the Democrats don’t like it, then they can play fair or keep whining and pointing fingers. But, they delayed the deal, and it hurts our military that they did.

    - – -

    Woody: If they want to cheat, they shouldn’t take offense at anyone who tries to block them in a fair way.

    reg twin: If you have the slightest evidence that Boeing cheated, again, you could make millions.

    Woody: Where do I collect my money? Boeing has publicly and deeply lied about their competition and the contract, for which there is ample proof, and heavily lobbied an administration that said that it was going to change that aspect of Washington.

    - – -

    reg twin: Now, pull your partisan head out of your partisan ass and educate yourself. I just gave you a head start.

    Woody: Funny, that you noticed with your own buried so deeply. You didn’t educate me. You put in your own spin and conveniently left out important information. Frankly, while it may upset you like Sen. Shelby does, people who don’t support job-killing unions, Obama, and lying Democrats aren’t going away…and, we know more than you do.

    Apparently, judging from this site and that commenter, the phrase “pulling your head out of your ass” is a universal response from socialists who really can’t argue with the truth.

53. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Huh ? You’ve obviously lost your mind.

54. reg Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Woody – are you really too stupid to understand the irony of a little shithead peckerwood who uses “FRANCE!” as a term of derision when it comes to analysing healthcare – and engages in the most rank nativist bigotry as a mtter of course – defending Richard Shelby’s petulant insult to this country (not because of FRANCE!!!! but his absurd abuse of the “hold” maneuver) with his porky, self-serving Airbus deal. You can argue this till doomsday, but you can’t help but come out looking like a weasel hoist on your own idiot’s petard.

    Get a life, get out of the gutter and get at least a bit of a sense of humor about the asinine nature of your own fucking bigoted rants if you expect us to suffer those steaming piles of horse-shit you relentlessly drop in these comments. You’re ridiculous.

55. Woody Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    reg, I use “France!” as a term of derision when it comes to their capablity to fight. Maybe an Alabama influence will have a positive impact on them.

    I’m willing to take their investment dollars and jobs. You on the other hand don’t want foreign investments?

56. Sergio Says:
    February 5th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    A few of you sorry motherfuckers have no life.

57. reg Says:
    February 6th, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Obviously this is all about your love of foreign investment, like Sun Myung Moon’s ownership of the Washington Times and the Saudi Sheik who owns nearly a third of FOX News. You’re quite the cosmopolitan.

58. Jim R Says:
    February 6th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Please don’t feed the troll.

59. Randy Paul Says:
    February 6th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    What Jim R said – and credit to him for calling it accurately.