Down With America!
It all began woth GOP Party Leader Limbaugh wishing failure on the American presidency. Yay!
Then increasingly fringe conservatives applauded when Obama’s plea for Chicago as home to the Olympics was rebuffed. Huzzah!
Now the Republican National Committee and its goofball leader calls the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to American President Obama “unfortunate. Booooo!
Here’s a few more things that could happen soon to lift the hearts of real patriots, true-red-white-and-bluers and obsessive teabaggers:
Health care fails leaving 50 million without coverage and average family policy rates topping $13,000. Awesome!
The Dow plunges to 6,000 and unemployment hits 15%. Fortunate!
Obama breaks a leg shooting hoops. Excellent!
The Taliban take over Afghanistan. Fabulous!
Israel nukes Iran, starting World War III. Ecstay and Rapture (a twofer)!
Obama gets Swine Flu. Tough titties!
Nothing like a flag-lapel-wearing jingoist to best embody the worst in hypocrisy.
October 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Why do the right wing extremists hate America?
Love it or leave it, losers!
For clarification: no irony intended. With behavior as Marc described, it’s obvious that right wing extremists hate our freedoms and all we stand for as a proud nation, and are fueled by an irrational and nihilistic desire to see us fail. This group fits right in with all the religious right nutcases who are excitedly counting down the days to the end of the world, cursing gays and praying for the destruction of humanity.
Fortunately for humanity, extremists (right and left) are by definition relegated to the sidelines. Let’s keep it that way.
October 9th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Yay, Marc is Up!
October 9th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Barely. Today’s agenda:
Lunch
Nap
Nap
October 9th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
A little codeine cough syrup would greatly increase your rest!
October 9th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Reg, did your son ever join the sub service? If so, have him check out a book called `Blind Man’s Bluff’, by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew.
It’s about American submarine espionage from the start of the cold war on (think Glomar Explorer), and it is awesome.
October 9th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Now this is just unfair. I’m sure there is plenty of good reasons for GOP & Friends to take these seemingly anti-American positions, and I’ll leave it to Woody to explain. Sure, during the entirety of the last eight years conservatives railed against liberals, exclaiming that there is never a justified reason to say anything that seems the least bit anti-American or anti-POTUS, but we’re talking about a party of patriots whose every word and every action is default-ly American.
October 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Marc, I seem to remember the Left and the Democrats pulling against Bush for eight solid years, much more than conservatives do Obama, and I remember Obama pounding it in everyone’s head, with the help of left-wing media, that Bush had us in a recession before it was even true, which encouraged it.
But, to use a phrase from the left who said that they weren’t against our troops but were against our policies in Iraq, I’m not against America but I oppose Obama’s policies and actions which are making America weaker and will bankrupt our nation.
Why do liberals support China to overtake America?
October 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Howie, I saw your comment after I made mine. I hope I didn’t disappoint you.
October 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Thanks, Woody. I just wish conservatives would lead by example, instead of proving two wrongs make a right. If you’re going to claim that any and all protest against the current president or his policies is anti-American, then you can’t turn around and do exactly that — especially when what you called anti-American were protests of a war we were lied into, torture, warrantless spying, etc. and when what you’re protesting is the Nobel Prize and 2016 Olympics. It just seems beneath such esteemed patriots to attack every little thing Obama does or is done on his behalf instead of getting to the real meat of the issue — you know all those things Obama is doing or has done that is destroying or has destroyed the country that none of you seem keen on actually specifically mentioning.
October 9th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Oh, and
Why do liberals support China to overtake America?
Because we all love strawmen?
October 9th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Funny. Anna, I just talked to a business pal in L.A. who went to the Petersen Automotive Museum (corner of Fairfax & Wilshire) last night.
October 9th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Well, whaddya know, right wing extremists in Georgia:
“Obama’s plan for health-care: N*&%*r rig it.”
And yes, once again, the fact that even a right-of-center blogger is decrying this trash is evidence of how loony these extremists are. Republicans, heal thyselves and stop hating America, or get used to the bench. You’ll be planted there awhile.
October 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Howie, I’m not against the Peace Prize, and I believe that Barack Obama is in good company to receive the same prize awarded to Yasser Arafat. I guess the awarding of the prize to Obama “as a call to action” is like the call to action for Arafat’s Palestinian terrorist bombings. The Nobel Committee sure loves to rub the noses of proud Americans into their choices.
I wanted the U.S. to get the Olympics, and I didn’t care that Obama put that task ahead of meeting with General McChrystal. What was funny is that he went to the Olympic Committee and talked about ” I this” and “I that,” and got the response that he, not America, deserved.
Frankly, I said it before the election and it continues to be true…Obama is in over his head on this job. He voted “present” more often than not when he was a Senator, and he continues to vote “present” as the President with his indecisiveness and lack of leadership on matters of importance.
What I can’t understand is why you guys rank his celebrity status over his accomplishments.
October 9th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Kyle, don’t forget that one of Obama’s own appointees accused Bush of the 9-11 attack.
October 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Jim – he couldn’t get sub duty because of a very minor health issue. He served 4 years on a destroyer based in Japan and just came home in September. He’s back in school and will probably stay in the reserves. I will recommend that book because he’s interested in that stuff.
October 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Good for him, Reg.
October 9th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
“Class”:
I am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the Nobel Committee.
Let me be clear, I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations.
To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who’ve been honored by this prize, men and women who’ve inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.
But I also know that this prize reflects the kind of world that those men and women and all Americans want to build, a world that gives life to the promise of our founding documents.
And I know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it’s also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.
And that is why I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century.
October 9th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
“Convicted of a crime I didn’t even commit. Hah! Attempted murder? Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry?”
Sideshow Bob – 1994
October 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Troglodyte un-American Right Wingers Scoff At Our President’s Peace Prize!
“I like Barack Obama as much as the next liberal, but this is a farce.” – Perter Beinart
“This is ridiculous — embarrassing, even.” – Ruth Marcus
“Nonetheless, the president seemed humbled by the news and the Norwegian committee packed for its trip to the United States, where it will appear on Dancing with the Stars.” – Richard Cohen
“It is undeserved. It is a bit ridiculous.” – Ezra Klein
“When I saw this morning’s top New York Times headline — “Barack Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize” — I had the same immediate reaction which I’m certain many others had: this was some kind of bizarre Onion gag that got accidentally transposed onto the wrong website, that it was just some sort of strange joke someone was playing.” – Glen Greenwald
October 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Mr. Obama does not deserve the prize.
I generally agree with this analysis.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/09/miller.obama.prize.doubts/index.html
October 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
That’s a commendable position, Woody, but I often have a hard time keeping track of whether Obama lacks leadership and votes present on important issues, or if he’s in fact an iron-fisted fascist dictator that strongarms anti-liberty measures onto an unsuspecting nation. My brain tells me he can’t be both, but I don’t know if I can trust it, so I’m going to consult my gut.
October 9th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Woody
Pulling against Bush is correct, but not hoping that he would fail. big difference. See we disagreed with his policies. some of us thought he was stupid. Some thought he was a crook surrounded by venal cronies. But I don’t know anyone who cheered for him to fail.
We didn’t sit around and (despite your caterwauling on this) wish for him to fail in Iraq. We didn’t wish for more tropps to die. some of us thought this was a mistake and we should get out, but we didn’t cheer for death so he would get egg on his face.
We didn’t hope that his tax policies would make the economy go into the shitter, to win a point.
We didn’t hope that the levee would break so that he would be handed a PR set back.
See we can oppose policy, and hell, oppose the man every step of the way, without needing other people to suffer to feed our victory and glee. You guys (at least a vocal portion of you) don’t see the distinction, which is precisely the point. We don’t need or want to win at any price. You do.
October 9th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Kyle, don’t forget that one of Obama’s own appointees accused Bush of the 9-11 attack.
Let’s play the game the way Woody does.
Your president was a simpering idiot who didn’t believe in evolution. I think it’s far worse for the president to be a total moron than it is for one of his appointees to be so.
Btw, understranding evolution is one of those litmus tests that separate the adults from the children. Want a lollipop?
October 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
On a side note–I’m not exactly sure Obama deserved the Nobel. His response was measured and classy as always, but the Swedes seem to have gotten a little bit ahead of themselves.
October 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
I was hoping the President would graciously decline and say that at this time he does not deserve the award. He would truly be a great man if he had the gumption to do such a thing. How any rational person can think he deserves the award at this time is beyond comprehension. I voted for him so spare me the name calling about right wingers and conservatives.
October 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Nice comments, Dan O. And, for the record, I also think selecting Obama for the Nobel Peace Prize was rather dumb. I’m a liberal. Isn’t that amazing how that’s possible? You know, the ol’ holding two thoughts in your head at the same time, without waiting for partisan points or Rush Limbaugh to tell you what to believe?
October 9th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I remember back in the midst of the Iraq debacle watching a debate on the message boards of this very blog that reminds me of all of this. A few wingnuts were celebrating the rise of the Iraq “resistance” and were hoping that US Imperialism would be defeated by these seemingly noble forces. But they were a couple of wingnuts who did not represent anything other than the most marginal voices on the Left. Yes lefties wanted the US out of Iraq but they did not view this as a “defeat of Bush,” rather they wanted a change in policy.
Yes some compared Bush to Hitler, crowed about fascism, etc… but again, they were marginal. The Left may have strong disliked Bush but it was based upon 8 years of failure and again, they argued for different policies.
What we are seeing now is an inversion of that. All the right wingers who whined about hating America were clearly projecting. They are the self-loathing gang of unthinking android, cheerleader squad who cannot see beyond their own ideological loyalties. For the likes of a guy like Woody, he does not love America, he loves authority figures, the authoritarian personality and that is why he was a Bushie.
So it is senseless to argue about anything with these folks. They are zombies. They follow. They crave servitude. The absurdity of cheering the loss of the Olympics or decrying the Nobel Prize reflect that these folks are members of a team, crave a position in a hierarchy, and find meaning in life by supporting the wealthy and powerful. It really is a waste to argue with true believers.
October 9th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
“What we are seeing now is an inversion of that. All the right wingers who whined about hating America were clearly projecting.”
meant to say:
“What we are seeing now is an inversion of that. All the right wingers who whined about the “left” hating America were clearly projecting.”
I would add to this that the Right are a bunch of cry babies and spoiled winners. They had the country for 8 years and fucked pretty much everything up. And if they cannot have their way, their guy, they will slander, tattle, cry, whine, bitch, moan, etc… They are toadies and nothing else.
October 9th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
amen
October 9th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Hey Bob – never in my life have I given a shit what Peter Beinart, Richard Cohen or Ruth Marcus say. They are almost always wrong and have a history of sucking up to the right-wing for whatever reasons. In fact, they’re all a bit of a joke among liberals. Glenn Greenwald is another story, but he’s the crankiest man on the planet and doesn’t much like Obama. That said, read Ezra Klein’s entire piece that you snipped from. The joke’s on you.
October 9th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Here’s why Obama won. Bush’s average pop rating in Europe was 11%. Obama’s is 88% as of today.
Turning America into a country to be respected instead of feared and scorned is a catalyst toward peace. Is any of this Obama’s doing? Somewhat. But the Peace Prize has always been detached from reality. Note Kissinger, plese.
The point isnt how rational the selection process is. It isnt. The point is that it is nevertheless a mark of national pride that the GOP stupidly stupidly stupidly scoffs at. But no one ecer said Republicans were particularly smart.
October 9th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
The Norwegian Consensus:
“Utrolig snål tildeling. Nesten så jeg mistenker dem for å gi ham prisen bare for å få en sittende amerikansk president til Oslo igjen …”
“Unbelievably clever choice. Makes me almost think they gave him the prize to get a sitting American president to Oslo again….
October 9th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
When Europeans like our President more than we do, then you can be sure that they are celebrating a U.S. decline in influence under that President.
October 9th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Up with these two Americans:
Marcy Kaptur! Why hasn’t she been spotted for a big cabinet post or suggested for VP ticket.
My god, she is what we need more of.
Watch her on Bill Moyers tonight.
and: Greg Mortenson
A friend had just been telling me about his book 3 Cups of Tea
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October 9th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Woody…
I am curious. Are you of African, Asian or of European descent? You have a real hang up with the latter so can’t quite figure it out.
That Obama is SO popular all over the world is good for America. Doesnt mean anything else, pal. If you’d prefer your European ancestors hate America, well, that would be sort of baffling.
Of course, let’s give credit where credit is due. Obama is so popular because Bush was so hated. What’s the conclusion there? That the entire world is wrong and we are right? or at least the 32% who supported Bush were right?
Don’t answer.
October 9th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Marc, my ancestors left Europe because they had had enough of it. I see why.
No, Obama’s popularity throughout the world is more of a joke than a compliment. Other nations are seeing that Obama is weak, and their envy of our country makes that good news for them. So, consider their motives rather than the polls.
When some lefty in our country worries about whether Europeans approve or disapprove of some action by our country, I say, “Who cares what they think? We do what is best for us — not them.”
October 9th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
More good Grayson: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/cspanjunkie/graysoni-will-not-apologize-america-doesnt-care
October 9th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Obama wants a big tax on Cokes, and The Coca-Cola Company was the one that actually had a legitimate claim to the Noble Peace Prize. VIDEO
October 10th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Here’s something I absolutely don’t get about the rightwing reaction to the Nobel Prize deal. Limbaugh says that our enemies are celebrating this award because it means that America is now officially weak – or some such nonsense – and then he declares that he agrees with the Taliban and Iran that Obama didn’t deserve the award. If the award is a signal of all the horseshit that idiots like Woody have convinced themselves to believe, why aren’t the Iranians and the Taliban celebrating instead of lining up with Rush Limbaugh. Is the award undeserved because Obama is a warmonger or deserved because he’s a big wimp. Or are the Europeans – who identify with this award more than most – the “enemies” the right is talking about ? If that’s what the rightwing believes – that the countries enemies reside mostly in Europe, while the Taliban and Iran are angry about the Nobel committee signaling the weakening of Great Satan – my assumption is that the reason Obama has started bombing the moon is to inflict casualties among the FOX News audience base. The incoherence is deafening.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:57 am
“country’s”
October 10th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Obama couldn’t even bomb the moon correctly. It was somewhat of a fizzle.
reg, it’s rare that the Noble Committee doesn’t use the award as an attack against America – specifically, conservative America.
You and the world know that Obama has done nothing to deserve the Peace Prize except to capture the White House and block conservative influence in Washington, after he fooled American voters about his radical connections and fascist agenda. That’s what the prize awards.
Liberals hijacked the Nobel Prize Committee decades ago and use it as a political weapon against conservatives and capitalism. How else could Al Gore have gotten a political prize for an alleged work of science?
To the left, victory over the U.S. is achieved when we are can no longer deal from a position of strength. That’s critical to the leftist agenda.
If you are celebrating the award to Obama, you’re in like company:
Like I said, Obama is gaining favor internationally, especially with our enemies, with each step of bringing down our country. Naturally, you like that.
October 10th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Yes, thats right, Woody. Obama is God and while doing all the other things you accuse him of doing or not doing he also runs the space missions, makes the calculations and pushes the buttons.
What are you…six?
You think that mission ONLY materialized after Obama was elected?
Nothing embarrasses you does it?
October 10th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Rave on, Woodman !!! I like your longer comments because it’s easier to make the decision immediately not to bother reading them.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
And, Anna, do you agree with reg that the purpose of the moon mission was to bombard conservatives?
Of course, reg, I know that you read my comment. You can’t help it.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Of course, reg, I know that you read my comment. You can’t help it.
Think of it as being roughly similar to rubbernecking at car accidents.
October 10th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
“Of course, reg, I know that you read my comment. You can’t help it.”
Not that long-ass one…keep ‘em coming, waving your hands wildly to get attention ! You sound pretty desperate. Family sick of your horseshit ?
October 11th, 2009 at 9:15 am
it seems, though i may be wrong, that the left’s response to the right vis-a-vis whether obama deserved or earned the npp is almost an exact copy of the right’s response to the left vis-a-vis leftish comments regarding bush’s conduct of the war. and this, of course, shows how truly sick this left/right divide is.
pot, meet kettle; kettle, meet pot
October 11th, 2009 at 9:56 am
“though i may be wrong”
^
This.
It would help to read through the comments before you make useless generalizations about The Left.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:16 am
What I think is hilarious about that comment is that it equates criticism of the rationale and/or conduct of a war – particularly in the case of Iraq – with nattering over a prize with virtually no consequences other than perception. And frankly, the perception that this prize is some sort of problem for Obama, a slap at the United States, that Obama’s turn-around on numerous rogue policies of the Bush years is inconsequential and should go unnoticed or unrewarded on the world stage or that Obama’s dignified, low-key acceptance was other than pitch-perfect, is absurd.
The discourse on these issues is no more “pot-kettle,” than the Montgomery bus boycott has an analog in Rush Limbaugh’s “concerns” that black quarterbacks are being promoted in a racist affront to white men.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:21 am
reg, if you don’t follow my remarks, then you aren’t qualified to make judgments on them, not that you ever were. But, wait. You didn’t even read this one. So, I guess that I can call you a fag and you won’t even know it.
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Someone lurking – the arguments may seem the same, but they are more honest coming from the right.
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I see that Barney Frank is getting upset with homosexuals marching in Washington, D.C. to protest broken promises and the failures of Obama and the Democrats to payoff on their campaign debts to them. However, the Democrats do have the gall to attach “hate crimes legislation” for queers to a major defense bill. (I had to use that word before my freedom of speech is taken away and called a hate crime.)
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The U.S. soccer team beat the Honduras team to advance to the World Cup. How could Obama allow that?
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Doesn’t anyone have something to say about the Dodgers sweeping the Cardinals to win the Division Series, or is destroying our nation from within more important?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I’m going to go out on a limb here, not having read Woody’s latest longish remarks, and make a bet that they are the same stupid shit as usual.
October 11th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Just not in comparison to yours.
October 11th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
“but they are more honest coming from the right”
Red alert! Baseless, evidence-free comment. Disregard and discard.
This service has been provided free of charge. You’re welcome.
October 11th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
“I’m not against America but I oppose Obama’s policies”
but the Olympics shouldn’t be in America? really? Bush ate peanut and butter sandwiches and they’re still okay with me. Obama has two daughters. Do you hate female children now?
October 11th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Sideshow, you’re better off staying off to the side.
Look, guys, you all try to make things personal rather than discuss issues.
Let’s review what I said:
You don’t discuss those issues, because you know that I’m right.
October 11th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I’m going to go out on a limb here, not having read Woody’s latest longish remarks, and make a bet that they are the same stupid shit as usual.
This may be the stupidest:
The U.S. soccer team beat the Honduras team to advance to the World Cup. How could Obama allow that?
Doesn’t anyone have something to say about the Dodgers sweeping the Cardinals to win the Division Series, or is destroying our nation from within more important?
Don’t you have anything to say about the Braves not making it to the postseason or would you prefer to continue to having sex with sheep?
However, the Democrats do have the gall to attach “hate crimes legislation” for queers to a major defense bill. (I had to use that word before my freedom of speech is taken away and called a hate crime.)
When I was going to San Francisco State, Christopher Isherwood came to speak. He used the word queers, too as he explained it co-opted the word from those who hated gays.
Never knew you were an Isherwood fan.
October 11th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
You don’t discuss those issues, because you know that I’m right.
Far right, but you’re not correct.
October 11th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Here’s your types, Randy. Deliver Us, Obama
October 11th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Somebody just alert me if he accuse me of being a child molester again.
October 11th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Obama for the Heisman Trophy!
October 11th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Someone in Atlanta is really craving attention.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Fuck football ?
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all
October 12th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Actually, Randy, the problem is on your side. You guys can’t discuss something without focusing on me and trying to attack me.
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reg, how is a political race different from dog fighting? You don’t think that there is a form of trauma from those constant attacks? I remember Al Gore going nuts after he lost to Bush. He never has gotten his head back on straight.
October 12th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Here’s the moonbats that Obama missed.
October 12th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Actually, Randy, the problem is on your side. You guys can’t discuss something without focusing on me and trying to attack me.
More projection.
October 12th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Woody, you don’t argue on substance. Witness the Heisman Trophy nonsense.
You frequently link to opinion pieces that merely echo your opinions. Then, far too often when one of us comes up with something substantive to counter your claims, your response, more often than not is something along the lines of “I don’t have time to verify your claims” or “That’s so pathetic” or you call one of us stupid.
If you have the time to link to these opinion pieces, then you should have the time to check the veracity of those who offer counter arguments. Your counterarguments are usually mere contradiction and not substantive.
October 12th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Randy, I can’t win with you.
When I express my views alone, you demand links and support. But, when I do provide support, you say that I’m merely linking to articles with similar views.
If I offer a link to FOX or any source which leads to a conservative view, you reject that as nonauthoritative. But, when you link to a left-wing site, then I’m supposed to accept it’s conclusions, despite very obvious failings common to the left.
It’s usually not the “facts” that are a problem with you, although sometimes they are typically incomplete. More often, it’s your interpretation of them, and that’s where I show you up and, by implication, say that you are stupid, which is something of a compliment because the other position would be to say that you are dishonest.
It’s too bad that you couldn’t see the humor in “Obama for the Heisman.” Typical of liberals.
October 12th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
If I offer a link to FOX or any source which leads to a conservative view, you reject that as nonauthoritative
Poppycock. You link to opinion pieces by right wingers (i.e. Neal Boortz). I link to factual sources.
by implication, say that you are stupid
Now you’re just lying. You come right out and call me stupid. Man up. At least you should have the courage of your debased convictions.
It’s usually not the “facts” that are a problem with you, although sometimes they are typically incomplete
That’s a cowpie if I ever saw one. These are the same complaints so many of us make about your piss-poor argumentation skills (an I believe I’m being charitable here). To actually “show [me] up”you would have to argue from an intellectually honest position and a statement like this:
Let me dumb this down for you, Roscoe: you haven’t proven that there are “very obvious failings common to the left.” That’s a presumption and a perception on your part. It is most assuredly not a fact.
As for the “Obama for the Heisiman” link, I didn;t find it funny; it was just puerile and frankly, dumb.
I suppose that is the best that I can expect from you.
October 13th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Okay, so you’re both stupid and have no sense of humor.
October 13th, 2009 at 7:18 am
“so you’re both stupid ”
Why do right-wing extremists always resort to personal attacks?
October 13th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Okay, so you’re both stupid and have no sense of humor.
Bear the above in mind the next time you accuse someone else of attacking you.
You got nothing – as usual.
October 13th, 2009 at 9:06 am
See, Randy. I can’t win. You either want me to be honest or to say nothing.
October 13th, 2009 at 9:47 am
I would prefer if you could try being civil and truthful and avoid gross generalizations, but I don’t have much faith in you to accomplish something as simple as that.
October 13th, 2009 at 9:54 am
So, you think that everything from FOX is not worth watching? VIDEO
October 13th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Inside Edition is not owned by Fox.