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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580916</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#8216;presidential&#8217; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#8217;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Out of bad taste) I&#8217;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-632782</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-585139</link>
		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580945</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580917</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580916</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580911</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#8217;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#8217;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
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<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#8217;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Out of bad taste) I&#8217;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#8217;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
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<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580916</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580889</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#8217;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Out of bad taste) I&#8217;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580916</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#8217;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580945</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580917</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580916</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580889</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#8217;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
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<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580916</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580911</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580879</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
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<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580916</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580889</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#8217;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Out of bad taste) I&#8217;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580916</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580889</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-632782</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-585139</link>
		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
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<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-585139</link>
		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580943</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580917</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580916</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580889</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580879</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580876</link>
		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/drifting-in-the-darkness/comment-page-1/#comment-580879</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
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<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
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		<description>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly definitely beneficial weblog publish which has got me considering. I never looked at this from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens</title>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens...&lt;/strong&gt;

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Teen Teens For Cash Nudist Teens&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all.... and the only good reason I&#039;m against euthanasia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and collect ballots of course, the only reason for putting up with the insanity at all&#8230;. and the only good reason I&#8217;m against euthanasia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#039;s coverage of a democratic debate also.

I would hope at least you would be &#039;fair and balanced&#039; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.

The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets........and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referring to the debate itself reg. But, as I remember, Luntz did a focus group with all democrats on Fox&#8217;s coverage of a democratic debate also.</p>
<p>I would hope at least you would be &#8216;fair and balanced&#8217; enough to admit the level of hate for Bush by the left-wing in the Democratic party is really hard to outdo.</p>
<p>The party sane need to keep the insane happily rocking on the party back porch, just visiting them often enough to check their straight jackets&#8230;&#8230;..and empty drool cups. Occasionally we fail.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&quot;

 Oh christ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!&#8221;</p>
<p> Oh christ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional ?  This crap ? 

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional ?  This crap ? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/22/gop-debate-appealing-to-the-24ers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness we were finally treated with a professionally run and &#039;presidential&#039; debate. No more childish YouBoobs please.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Congress is at 11% approval.&quot;

Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.

http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm

With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#039;t like, I think we&#039;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:

&quot;It&#039;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&quot;,

&quot;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#039;s sexual orientation&quot;,

&quot;Doctors probably shouldn&#039;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#039; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&quot; ....

.... just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#039;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#039; there, it&#039;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &quot;National Pemmican Week&quot;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congress is at 11% approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite that low, but still shockingly low.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pollingreport.com/congress.htm</a></p>
<p>With Bush still holding veto power over almost any congressional move he doesn&#8217;t like, I think we&#8217;re in for little more than a numbing stream of non-binding resolutions from now until Jan 2009.  You know the kind I mean:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that Ellen deGeneres is an irresponsible pet owner&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;J.K. Rowling might or might not have been unacceptably indiscreet in exposing Dumbledore&#8217;s sexual orientation&#8221;,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doctors probably shouldn&#8217;t bum us out by reporting that peoples&#8217; attitudes toward their cancer fight has no effect on their prognosis, and how about warming up the stethoscope a little before planting it on our chests?&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;. just a name a few burning issues ripped from today&#8217;s headlines.  B Spears and K Federline?  Not goin&#8217; there, it&#8217;s *way* too hot with likely voters right now.  How about declaring &#8220;National Pemmican Week&#8221;?  No oxen gored with that sort of bold legislation, one would hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#039;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks

Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#039;assommoir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool comments Sergio.  Liked Marc&#8217;s column better on 2nd read.  Thanks</p>
<p>Rookie to EZ.  Short ways into L&#8217;assommoir.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robespierre.  Pemmican.  Words rarely seen in print any more, let alone in the same post.  End times?</description>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#039;s&lt;i&gt; Germinal &lt;/i&gt; and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. 
 

I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#039;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is-- as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!

On to the Republicans.

Yes, you&#039;re right, about &lt;i&gt; that party&lt;/i&gt; of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)


I&quot;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#039;s how bad it looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed your French revolutionary analogies, complete with months.  If you like that passion, read Emile Zola&#8217;s<i> Germinal </i> and see the excellent 1990s  movie. Real workers, real class struggle. Real defeat. </p>
<p>I also have been a  fan (if  there my be such a term )of Pat Caddell since before i was  a teen. Matt Bai&#8217;s book ( thanks for the tip Marc) has a very funny anecdote about Pat , who is&#8211; as usual, prescient and trenchant.  I spent much of the time at Book Soup in WeHo asking Matt about Pat!</p>
<p>On to the Republicans.</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, about <i> that party</i> of First and Second Estate  fossils, Marc, but the Democrats have so little to say, we might end up with the 5th of Brumaire. and after that   First Consul and Empire   (Hillaryleon I, but with crappier troops)</p>
<p>I&#8221;m stocking up on pemmican. and anyone coming to my Halloween party on Saturday will be assessed  on suitability for hill climbing. That&#8217;s how bad it looks.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Marc. Evidently, the republicans haven&#039;t learned much from the 1992 RNC Convention.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.

I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#039;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd....Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Turner about Huckabee.  He has a way of making some quite right positions seem palatable.  He is indeed a great salesman.</p>
<p>I caught a little of Mitt Romney&#8217;s act on CSPAN.  It is interesting to see the candidates modulate their presentations for the crowd&#8230;.Mitt had a faux warmth, a concerned-parent vibe, that modulated his usual Chamber of Commerce triumphalist 21st century Babbittry.  He announced his opposition to internet porn, summoning courage to confront fierce pro-First Amendment sentiments of the Christian far right.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahabers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahabers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#039;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&quot;   You then label the Republicans as &quot;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&quot;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. 

I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they - like me - fall into the &quot;70% of the electorate who&#039;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems -- jobs, medical care, education.&quot;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  

Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#039;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,<br />
I visit your site often although I rarely comment anymore (see Woody&#8217;s comments from last week) but I have to say that I was surprised by the tone of your latest entry.   The congressional bribery scandals (William Jefferson) and congressional sex scandals (Bill Clinton) are not limited to the Republicans nor is the reference to â€œmillionaire candidates.&#8221;   You then label the Republicans as &#8220;trained seals tightly limited to the one basic script: â€¦ and the usual mix of sermons about God, Guns and Gays.&#8221;   It is certainly not unusual for the candidates to play up to their own parties in the primaries and any unkind Republican could just as easily level the same complaint at the opposition.  Your normally outstanding writing seems diminished by these simplifications. </p>
<p>I experience many of the same feelings you mentioned when I listen to the Democratic candidates discuss their issues.  Mainly that they are totally out of touch with hard working, middle class families that are tired of paying for bloated, mismanaged, preferential government programs.   There are a lot of moderate republicans out there and they &#8211; like me &#8211; fall into the &#8220;70% of the electorate who&#8217;s just plain tired of all this crud. They actually want answers and solutions to their own life problems &#8212; jobs, medical care, education.&#8221;  We just donâ€™t believe that our answers and solutions involve handing over control of our money and our lives to the federal government so that they can take care of us.  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work and thanks for not deep sixing the blog.  I&#8217;m going to keep reading even though I thought this piece not worthy of your talent.  I guess itâ€™s a compliment that Iâ€™m holding you to some higher standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

Here&#039;s the short version of the debate: http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the short version of the debate: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yubxta" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yubxta</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ohnohedidnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohnohedidnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Out of bad taste) I&#039;m pretty sure FDR sat down to pee...</description>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#039;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &quot;don&#039;t you dodge the question&quot; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I watched some of the TPM recap and I loved the part where Chris Wallace asked Mitt Romney whether Hillary was fit to be commander in chief.  When Romney joked with the audience and said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for her, Wallace came back again with a &#8220;don&#8217;t you dodge the question&#8221; attitude and rethrew his softball query.  Certainly a fitting team of interlocutors for the hapless candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enoough (and frankly don&#039;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enoough (and frankly don&#8217;t care to know enough about the candidates to wonder if they sit down to pee. Hell, for all I know, Hillary may be the only one who stnds to pee.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?

Marc: &lt;i&gt;...still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk...&lt;/i&gt;

Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?

Grumpy: &lt;i&gt;First President who sits down to pee.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#039;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I being too thin skinned, or is the possibility of a female President subliminally threatening?  Or, both?</p>
<p>Marc: <i>&#8230;still maybe 30% of the electorate who get their panties wet listening to tough talk&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Surely some of that 30% wear boxer shorts or briefs?</p>
<p>Grumpy: <i>First President who sits down to pee.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just as defining to note, First President to wear a pants suit?  Setting skirts, pumps, and nylon stockings aside since Rudy&#8217;s cross-dressing occasion seems to be well reported.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Reaganite thermidor&quot;
excellent.

I&#039;m genuinely concerned though, that if the heat keeps getting turned up/and/or an attack on Iran, it will be Hillary vs. Guiliani, and they will agree wholeheartedly on hawkishness, in fact both trying to outflank the other on the right, with Guiliani winning through more support from somel obby groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reaganite thermidor&#8221;<br />
excellent.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m genuinely concerned though, that if the heat keeps getting turned up/and/or an attack on Iran, it will be Hillary vs. Guiliani, and they will agree wholeheartedly on hawkishness, in fact both trying to outflank the other on the right, with Guiliani winning through more support from somel obby groups.</p>
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