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From my local paper’s editorial page today January 25th 2006:

Undocumented Success
I am an undocumented timmigrent. when I arrived ni this country 15 years ago, I was way below the federal poverty line.
I worked very hard at two jobs and went to night class to pass my GED test. In my spare time, I was at the public library teaching myself English.
Today, I own property in Temecula and Hemet. I am a proud business owner who pays taxes, and I have created jobs.

Nearly a quarter-million Hispanic households could become homeowners if undocumented immigrants had greater access to the mortgage market, according to new research released Monday in Denver.

Of those, more than 216,000 could become owners if they had improved access to the home buying process, said Paral, adding that as a group, they represent $44 billion in mortgage originations.

I think I mentioned before but just as a reminder. I am pro union my first real job at 16 was a Union job.

Bakery , Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers Local 315 in San Diego. My father and 3 uncles were lifetime members.

I have been on strike, and I still do not cross picket lines. I work closely with Teamsters, Union Carpenters, and Union Electricians in my job.

All that said I am not pro union bullshit which Mark likes to spew.

Lots of non union companies pay well and provide benefits to their employees.

My drywall jobs and tile setting jobs were non union and paid very well and had full medical and dental benefits.

As I stated earlier my brother in law works for one of the largest painting contractors in San Diego. They are non union. I spoke to him on the phone this morning and confirmed their pay scale:

$12 for apprentices, $18 – 19 for journeyman and $20 – $25 per hour for foremen.

They have full medical and dental and a matching $1 to $1 401k plan.

They have several painters who make $65k per year. Without a doubt some of them are illegal.

They had one employee who had worked for them for 8 years and had moved into the office as an estimator making six figures when it was discovered he was in the country illegally. He was fired.

He now runs the company for one of their competitors and he is still making 6 figures.

Of course you will dismiss everything I have said because it doesn’t fit your political agenda but you and I both know its true.

The WSJ is always quick grab onto these issues and the Pittsburgh PG is the Scaife paper. They don’t mention how this could happen if there were no nonuinon concrete work in the area. That’s a disconnect.

They aren’t. Period. Premise is false on its face.

I live in LA not out in Riverside. I own my house, albeit a trailer. Believe me it doesn’t approach 400K. These days $11 an hour isn’t much for concrete work considering skilled labor with papers pays much more, or maye you wish it didn’t? So what exactly is your point because I don’t detect one that’s valid at least.

Unless it’s the illegals are dragging down the wages of Americans, which they are. With the help of Republican businesses, greed and enabling policy e.g. anti-union Wal-Martism.

Here is the link the old fashioned way:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05189/535094.stm

btw although this bank is in Wisconsin there are similar banks all over California doing the same thing. The Median home price where I live is $405, 000.

You can not find a home for anything under $200,000 again I know first hand I have looked within the last 3 months.

How are illegal aliens making minimum wage affording these homes?

Mark you know wages in North Carolina and Southern California are very different right?

Take a look at this article that talks about a bank in Wisconsin that caters to illegal immigrants providing home loans and car loans to them.

Now if banks are willing to lend them money to buy a house they must be making a decent income right?

A few days later, Mr. Garcia brought his ITIN and proof that he had filed taxes every year since getting the tax ID. He also brought pay stubs to show he earns about $450 a week making concrete molding to secure caskets in the earth, a job he has held for four years.

I will get back to you soon with definite figures from current illegal aliens working in construction in So Cal.

do you fell better now Mark?

I am not doing any huffing and puffing. I was trying to have an honest discussion with you bud. Try and calm down take a breath and start over.

or not.

here are US. Government stats on construction wages.

You will see carpenters make $17.11 average wage an hour. I live in California and worked construction in San Diego (one of the higest paying cities for construction).

So again applying your rate of 7.4% less for illegal alliens they are averaging $12.66 an hour.

now I will let you in on a little secret. Any non union construction worker worth his salt will want to work on “piece work” (If Mark has a shred of honestly he will concur) meaning the faster you go the more you make. Any competent dry waller in California will make the wages I did.

and they don’t pay illegals less per piece than legal workers.

Now I used figures from a website I thought you would trust. Do you trust those figures?

Mark your either completely ignorant about non union work or your not being truthful.

No skilled carpenter works for $7 an hour. Not in California which is where you say you worked.

I know lots of general contractors, lots of construction workers.

Read this NC article Reg

Construction tends to be the No. 1 job objective for many Hispanics coming to North Carolina because they have had experience with bricks, concrete and stone in their homeland, said Miriam Hernandez, a local consultant who founded the Hispanic/International Action Association. “Construction pays more than agriculture, and this area is more established in lifestyle and financially for Hispanics,”