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		<title>By: Neil Hutchinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Hutchinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah?...however i also buy her albums sometimes, im just love other bands better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah?&#8230;however i also buy her albums sometimes, im just love other bands better.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: satan4mxv</title>
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		<dc:creator>satan4mxv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14039</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14041</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14048</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14049</link>
		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Hutchinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Hutchinson</dc:creator>
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		<description>yeah?...however i also buy her albums sometimes, im just love other bands better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah?&#8230;however i also buy her albums sometimes, im just love other bands better.</p>
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		<title>By: satan4mxv</title>
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		<dc:creator>satan4mxv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie800 &lt;a href=&quot;http://frogger.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt;mxv</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14037</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14039</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14040</link>
		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Hutchinson</dc:creator>
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		<description>yeah?...however i also buy her albums sometimes, im just love other bands better.</description>
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		<dc:creator>satan4mxv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie800 &lt;a href=&quot;http://frogger.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt;mxv</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14037</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14040</link>
		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14041</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14042</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14046</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14048</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14049</link>
		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Hutchinson</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

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Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
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<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14037</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14041</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14042</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14046</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14044</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14037</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14040</link>
		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14041</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14042</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14043</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14046</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

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Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
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<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14037</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14041</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14042</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14046</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14041</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14042</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14046</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14037</link>
		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14039</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14040</link>
		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14041</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14042</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14043</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14044</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14046</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14048</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14044</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14044</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14046</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



Do I lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frydek-Mistek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14041</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14045</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14046</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
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<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc - I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#039;t really get your attack on &quot;The Left&quot; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#039;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#039;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &quot;Castro is evil&quot;.  But I don&#039;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba - particularly the Cuban economy.



As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#039;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly with your views of what would be best for Cubans, but I don&#8217;t really get your attack on &#8220;The Left&#8221; here (to the extent that such exists).  Maybe it&#8217;s just the circles I move in, but I simply don&#8217;t come across all these defenders of Castro that you see everywhere.  Of course, I see plenty of people who are *accused* by various right wing blowhards of sympathy for Castro for trying to describe Cuba today in all its dimensions rather than simply reciting &#8220;Castro is evil&#8221;.  But I don&#8217;t see many who are blind to the fundamental ugliness of the regime and the effect it has had on Cuba &#8211; particularly the Cuban economy.</p>
<p>As for the absence of noisy attacks on the Cuban regime from the left, isn&#8217;t it this simple: political debate in America is only likely to have an effect on American policy.  Therefore, people who want to actually effect change are going to address those things that are within American control.  That means sanctions.  Right wingers keep up a constant drumbeat of criticism not because it is virtuous or even educational, but because it advances their domestic political interest in maintaining sanctions.  Those who think that the sanctions are wrong or counterproductive have no such motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14035</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? It&#039;s not what the left is saying... it&#039;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#039;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#039;s what the left is currently doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? It&#8217;s not what the left is saying&#8230; it&#8217;s what it is not saying. We fight pro-actively for Palestinian rights on the left, fo example. I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S. Do u think it&#8217;s a good idea to leave that job to G BUsh? That&#8217;s what the left is currently doing.</p>
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		<title>By: the burningman</title>
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		<dc:creator>the burningman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#039;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &quot;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&quot; Or, at best, he&#039;d hedge his bets and say that &quot;sure, Cuba needs to improve... but those gangsters are giving the &#039;legitimate&#039; opposition a bad name!&quot;



What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#039;s personal laptop. 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Marc Cooper was a Cuban in Cuba, he&#8217;d be the first one spitting of a missive to Granma about the &#8220;counter-revolutionaries in the pay of the Miami mafia.&#8221; Or, at best, he&#8217;d hedge his bets and say that &#8220;sure, Cuba needs to improve&#8230; but those gangsters are giving the &#8216;legitimate&#8217; opposition a bad name!&#8221;</p>
<p>What Marc managed to leave out was that they broadcast a recorded greeting from none other than our dear Generalissimo GW Bush. It was played on the head of the US Special Interest Section Cason&#8217;s personal laptop. </p>
<p>Do I lie?</p>
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		<description>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit... he just didn&#039;t care all that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh! Cooper DID notice that Bush was there in spirit&#8230; he just didn&#8217;t care all that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &quot;attack?&quot; cant one just criticize? &quot;



Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.



&quot;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&quot;



Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.



In other words, I don&#039;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is every criticism of the left catalogued as an &#8220;attack?&#8221; cant one just criticize? &#8221;</p>
<p>Fair question. Of course one can just criticize.</p>
<p>&#8220;I want to know who is proactively fighting for the rights of the Cuban people in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in my view, the embargo and the aggressive posturing of the American right have actively assisted Castro to maintain his grip on power.  It follows that I believe trying to convince Americans of the counter-productive nature of these actions is the best way to advance the prospects of freedom and democracy in Cuba.</p>
<p>In other words, I don&#8217;t accept that noisy denunciations of Castro and his regime are the most effective way to ameliorate the situation in Cuba.  Nor do should you have to recite your disgust of Castro every time you wish to say something on the topic of the effectiveness of American policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#039;s not much better, I&#039;ve heard; maybe he&#039;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#039;t much younger, so he&#039;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul ... well, who knows?



But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#039;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#039;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#039;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Fidel kicks the bucket, power will likely go to Raoul.  He&#8217;s not much better, I&#8217;ve heard; maybe he&#8217;s worse.  But every transition is an opportunity for change, and anyway, Raoul isn&#8217;t much younger, so he&#8217;ll be gone soon enough.  After Raoul &#8230; well, who knows?</p>
<p>But, Marc, what I want to know is, what&#8217;s your theory behind supposing that the reaction will be ever further rightward for every added year Fidel is in power?  I think if you look at transitions away from long-lived tyrants around the world, they&#8217;ve been all across the board, from dynastic succession in North Korea to the fall of the Berlin Wall in East Germany.  It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that Cuba will go back to being a mere Batistastan when both Castros are in their graves.  Give me a theory, or at least a highly parallel precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Frydek-Mistek</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.

1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  

2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#039;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.

3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  

Frydek-Mistek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for a pipe dream/Cuba policy.</p>
<p>1.  American leftists, along with European govts (and communist nutjobs) that have directly or indirectly supported/apologized for Castro announce that Fidel is a nothing more than a pathetic despot worthy of imprisonment or worse.  </p>
<p>2.  The American right announces that after 3(4) decades, the embargo on Cuba hasn&#8217;t worked and Castro is going to die in office. It is no longer worth it to appease former Batisita supporters and rightwing nutjobs in Miami.</p>
<p>3. The US State Dept.  announces that it will be willing to negotiate an end to the embargo if Castro will allow dissidents to form opposition parties and meet, without police harrassment, whenever and whereever they want.  </p>
<p>Frydek-Mistek</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#039;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.



You can go to Stefania&#039;s site and see more pics, if you&#039;d like. Just keep scrolling down.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://freethoughts.splinder.com/&lt;/a&gt;



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Bush was there.  The dissidents played a video message from him on their laptop for the group.  I&#8217;m sure that has something to do with the left ignoring this momentous meeting.  Yes, Marc, they are leaving it to the Bushies. Again, they ignore everyday politics for some dreamy futuristic ideal.</p>
<p>You can go to Stefania&#8217;s site and see more pics, if you&#8217;d like. Just keep scrolling down.</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughts.splinder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.splinder.com/</a></p>
<p>Warning: many of the pics show dissidents who are openly pro-American. <img src='http://marccooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper asks, &quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&quot;



Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#039;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#039;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#039;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper asks, &#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?  What does it tell us that a great civil liberties lion like Nat is left to publish his op-ed piece in the Washington Times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the answer should be obvious to anybody who is not drunk on anti-Communist ideology. Nat Hentoff has absolutely no leftist credentials. He uses his Village Voice column to slander the Mideast Languages and Culture Department at Columbia University as anti-Semitic. He argues vociferously against a woman&#8217;s right to an abortion. He has even come to the aid of George W. Bush&#8217;s dreadful federal court nominees lately. In other words, Hentoff belongs exactly to the reactionary swamp epitomized by Reverend Moon&#8217;s Washington Times. It is sad that Marc Cooper cannot discern this, further proof of his steady march to Hitchensville.</p>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
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		<description>Marc  - Didn&#039;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#039;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association - which apparently has a faction on it&#039;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left - the Chomskyites and such - doesn&#039;t share your view ? And, although I&#039;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#039;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) 



I think you&#039;re overstating here...to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &quot;the left&quot; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#039;t know of anyone who&#039;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#039;t look forward to Castro&#039;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  



How do we draw these lines in using the term &quot;left&quot; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &quot;leftist&quot; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post...Pop quiz for conservative posters here - who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#039;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &quot;leftist&quot; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  



As for Bush&#039;s tape recording, that&#039;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro - who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#039; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor - an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo...but then he&#039;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#039;re not likely to see it. 



(Marc...I&#039;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &quot;leftists&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc  &#8211; Didn&#8217;t just about every notable member of that very large (!) and enormously influential (!) group, the Fairly-Far-Left, publicly condemn Castro&#8217;s trials of dissidents a few years back ?     I know that Hentoff wrote of a bizarre brouhaha at The American Library Association &#8211; which apparently has a faction on it&#8217;s executive board who blocked expressions of solidarity with dissident Cuban librarians. But who even on the isolated and mostly irrelevant  Fairly-Far-Left &#8211; the Chomskyites and such &#8211; doesn&#8217;t share your view ? And, although I&#8217;ve occasionally read some bizarre comments after meeting Fidel Castro from individuals on the trendy cultural left, I haven&#8217;t seen a defense of Castro among left liberals for many a decade. (For me personally, Fidel lost any luster after he supported the Soviet invasion of Chechoslovakia nearly forty years ago.) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re overstating here&#8230;to the point of distortion. Maybe Alexander Cockburn would fit your profile of &#8220;the left&#8221; refusing to criticize Castro, and you could find a few politically marginal morons with cultural credentials like Alice Walker who profess great admiration for Fidel, but I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s taken seriously in left-liberal circles who doesn&#8217;t look forward to Castro&#8217;s demise and hope it opens up new political space, much as we prayed for the death of Arafat.  </p>
<p>How do we draw these lines in using the term &#8220;left&#8221; in the U.S., where Hillary Clinton is attacked as a &#8220;leftist&#8221; in some fairly prominent salons of the right ???  I guess the issue of definition and perception is part of my problem with your post&#8230;Pop quiz for conservative posters here &#8211; who is Stanley Aronowitz ? Mike Davis ?  Michael Albert ?  Name a book published by Verso Press. Which Trotskyist organization was Christopher Hitchens a member of?    Anybody who can&#8217;t answer at least a couple of those questions probably thinks of Ted Kennedy is a Leftist, so most of the terms of your discussion are shifted immediately into the realm of the irrelevant and arcane and the charges of &#8220;leftist&#8221; support for Castro become bizarre and essentially counter-factual.  </p>
<p>As for Bush&#8217;s tape recording, that&#8217;s a stupid stunt that obviously hands propaganda points to Castro &#8211; who is still apparently fairly credible in Cuba because of his great abilities as a demagogue and the Cubans&#8217; having, despite a disastrous inability to construct a modern economy, created a floor for the poor &#8211; an achievement which looks pretty good when you simply compare it to the millions tossed into gutters elsewhere in what used to be termed the Third World. It appears, based on your report, that the U.S. has actually managed to create a fracture within the democratic movement in Cuba. The dissidents should have sent a tape-recording back to Bush asking him to lift the futile, counter-productive embargo. Now the response to that would have been interesting. This embargo is one of those cul-de-sacs created throughout the history of American diplomacy by the mindless rhetoric and political opportunism of the right, by which only a Nixon could go to China without being redbaited. Politically, Bush could end the embargo&#8230;but then he&#8217;s not got the intellectual sophistication, the grasp of diplomacy nor the strength of character that Nixon had, so we&#8217;re not likely to see it. </p>
<p>(Marc&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid that the growing evidence of Nixon nostalgia among liberals proves just how far removed we are from the days when Fidelismo was percieved as a viable strain among American &#8220;leftists&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Schulman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Schulman</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&quot;



It isn&#039;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &amp; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#039;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why the continuing silence of most of the American Left on Castro? Why is it left only to Nat Hentoff to speak out?&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t. Read NEW POLITICS or AGAINST THE CURRENT or NEWS &#038; LETTERS or any anarchist publication and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of criticism of Castro.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turner</dc:creator>
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		<description>Fidel might not die -- Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).



YES, I&#039;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#039;ll know I&#039;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidel might not die &#8212; Cuba has invested a lot in biotech (an issue that surfaced briefly during the Bolton fiasco).</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;m joking.  Jeez.  You&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m serious when I start gibbering about decapitating Jim Rockford.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hitchcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim hitchcock</dc:creator>
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		<description>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted: Investors to help finance an animatronics research lab in  small Caribbean country. Must be willing to relocate to avoid capitalist lackey lawyers with big ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/humdinger-in-havana/comment-page-1/#comment-14047</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&quot;



Marc...might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#039;s future when Fidel passes - the Cuban people. The American Left - whatever that might mean to you - has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#039;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#039;t see how Chomsky&#039;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#039;s future is that after Castro&#039;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#039;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#039;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#039;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. 



Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#039;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#039;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &quot;solidarity&quot; bullshit - a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and - rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives - they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#039;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &quot;revolution&quot;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment...and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#039;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken - according to the Leninist maxim - but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  



All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The choice will only be Castro (who will eventually die) and the dead end Cuba finds itself in,  or the worst of the Miami wingnuts, unless that is, you help support and bolster a third, democratic alternative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marc&#8230;might I add that you rather remarkably skip over the main issue of agency in determining Cuba&#8217;s future when Fidel passes &#8211; the Cuban people. The American Left &#8211; whatever that might mean to you &#8211; has hardly been the key to continuation of Castro&#8217;s regime and they will hardly be the determinant factor in what comes after. Liberals have been pretty firmly opposed to the economic boycott and travel restrictions for many years (despite typical Clintonian caving to the Republicans). I just don&#8217;t see how Chomsky&#8217;s legions are going to make much difference one way or the other. The biggest danger to Cuba&#8217;s future is that after Castro&#8217;s demise the right-wing will push not for reform, democratization and shifting gears toward a modern entrepeneurial economy, but for maximalist market domination of all aspects of Cuba&#8217;s economy and society and the imposition of a pliant government heavily influenced by exiles . That is an extreme scenario and would probably mean something approximating a civil war, cueing direct U.S. intervention, but it&#8217;s pretty obviously the fantasy harbored by many in Miami and their allies in the Beltway Ideology Factories. Whatever happens, it won&#8217;t be according to a blueprint put forward by The Left. </p>
<p>Democratically-minded folks around the world should be speaking out on human rights in Cuba as elsewhere, but it&#8217;s not up to us to come up with a post-Castro strategy for Cuban reform. That&#8217;s precisely the kind of hubris that makes the neo-cons so dangerous, delusional and, ironically, the inept heirs of the time-worn Leftist &#8220;solidarity&#8221; bullshit &#8211; a scenario in which Americans of extreme ideological bent and little more than academic, ivory tower credentials assume that they have the formula for global liberation and &#8211; rather than simply and responsibly asserting the limitations of our military power, the potential benefits of trade and economic interdependence and, thus, proposing a humane, rational, even-handed U.S. foreign policy combined with judicious use of foriegn aid and economic incentives &#8211; they begin designating their allies-in-exile, forming internationalist cabals for overthrowing governments and sending material aid to various and sundry militant factions they&#8217;ve deemed their comrades.  All in an effort to exert their own will as righteous agents of the wretched of the Earth and the unjustly oppressed in a global &#8220;revolution&#8221;.  Generally a prelude to some combination of disaster and disappointment&#8230;and at best a diversion from making sure that our own house is in order when we&#8217;re dealing with tough issues abroad.  Many eggs are broken &#8211; according to the Leninist maxim &#8211; but the omelettes never seem to turn out to be as palatable as promised (Bahgdad being the current case in point).  </p>
<p>All decent, sensible Americans support human rights and greater democracy in Cuba, but the rightwing agenda is currently the primary external impediment to Cuban liberalization, insofar as the U.S. has any direct influence on the process. If the Cold War taught us anything, it is that isolating populations culturally and economically makes absolutely no sense except to the most insecure Stalinists and crackpot Rightists. Handing Castro an opportunity to appear to be a proponent of greater openness toward the U.S. in this particular pissing contest is disgraceful and a measure of just how patently absurd the Boltonesque approach to Cuba of this administration and their hard-right ideologues has become.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm&lt;/a&gt;



An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#039;s policies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3702431.stm</a></p>
<p>An inside, anti-Castro view on Bush&#8217;s policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
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		<description>reg, you rock.



Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reg, you rock.</p>
<p>Marc, if you have any concrete suggestions for U.S. citizens who would like to support democratic dissidents with positive actions (i.e., not more ritual denunciations of Fidel), please make them.  You were there, you talked with them; what would be useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly great subject -- Castro......



For me at least, I have the most romantic viewpoint from the distant past - and hard reality for the current now -- did not read any of the links that you showed -- because my views are so strong, for many years now.....



Castro in basic terms for me is a dinasour, a lovely one from my Anarchistic days -- because of my great love affair with Che and the &quot;Revolution&quot;.....idealogy at it&#039;s best in the 60s.....



Leaping forward several decades and cutting to the chase.....When Russia dropped Cuba and it was over, the support...it was over for any serious conversation.....



In fact, Fidel always wanted and courted the US... and oddly enough his great love of baseball, of all things not political...but back to the serious...



We NEVER gave up the sanctions to Cuba, idiotic by my take...in a large way, for such a small place...Cuba...I have found it all idiotic...you can swim from Key West to Cuba in short time...only 90 miles away...and all that portends.



I would not guess what will happen when Fidel is gone -- I will miss his glamour/angst and postions as a &quot;young man&quot;...those were great days, and great times for me in my own idealogy for then.......



I will never miss Castros inability the past couple of decades to come up to speed, nor will I ever miss our country, the good old US of A to be real about Cuba and make serious and honest attempts to take this tiny Island with a man of Great Ego and solve what I always believed had very simple solutions, had we truly tried......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly great subject &#8212; Castro&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>For me at least, I have the most romantic viewpoint from the distant past &#8211; and hard reality for the current now &#8212; did not read any of the links that you showed &#8212; because my views are so strong, for many years now&#8230;..</p>
<p>Castro in basic terms for me is a dinasour, a lovely one from my Anarchistic days &#8212; because of my great love affair with Che and the &#8220;Revolution&#8221;&#8230;..idealogy at it&#8217;s best in the 60s&#8230;..</p>
<p>Leaping forward several decades and cutting to the chase&#8230;..When Russia dropped Cuba and it was over, the support&#8230;it was over for any serious conversation&#8230;..</p>
<p>In fact, Fidel always wanted and courted the US&#8230; and oddly enough his great love of baseball, of all things not political&#8230;but back to the serious&#8230;</p>
<p>We NEVER gave up the sanctions to Cuba, idiotic by my take&#8230;in a large way, for such a small place&#8230;Cuba&#8230;I have found it all idiotic&#8230;you can swim from Key West to Cuba in short time&#8230;only 90 miles away&#8230;and all that portends.</p>
<p>I would not guess what will happen when Fidel is gone &#8212; I will miss his glamour/angst and postions as a &#8220;young man&#8221;&#8230;those were great days, and great times for me in my own idealogy for then&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>I will never miss Castros inability the past couple of decades to come up to speed, nor will I ever miss our country, the good old US of A to be real about Cuba and make serious and honest attempts to take this tiny Island with a man of Great Ego and solve what I always believed had very simple solutions, had we truly tried&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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