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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586878</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Harper has proven relatively independent of the US lately, strongly critical of Israel in Gaza"

What's up with JC turning into a Harper apologist. He forgets to mention that Harper suppported Israel's invasion of Lebanon, refusing to call for a cease fire, that he has said anything about a Khadr, a Canadian born teenager facing US military court trial to the loud dismay of of human rights groups, that he has reversed long standing Canadian tadition of seeking clemency for those abroad who face the death penalty. Weird</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Harper has proven relatively independent of the US lately, strongly critical of Israel in Gaza&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s up with JC turning into a Harper apologist. He forgets to mention that Harper suppported Israel&#8217;s invasion of Lebanon, refusing to call for a cease fire, that he has said anything about a Khadr, a Canadian born teenager facing US military court trial to the loud dismay of of human rights groups, that he has reversed long standing Canadian tadition of seeking clemency for those abroad who face the death penalty. Weird</p>
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		<title>By: Mr X</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586861</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Get ready to lose"
Jeez, DP strategy is determined by what policies are acceptable to the donors, not by  what wins elections.  The same strategy of following the repugs further and further right keeps them losing, but they knowingly keep doing it.  Those who are ultimately in charge don't care which party wins, any more than it matters whether Coke or Pepsi is #1 to someone who owns stock in both.
Here's a scary thought, though.  McCain is worried about losing the serpent handler vote to a third party, names Huckabee as VP and wins the election.  McCain has a stroke and dies or is incapacitated in late 2009.   Here comes Armageddon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Get ready to lose&#8221;<br />
Jeez, DP strategy is determined by what policies are acceptable to the donors, not by  what wins elections.  The same strategy of following the repugs further and further right keeps them losing, but they knowingly keep doing it.  Those who are ultimately in charge don&#8217;t care which party wins, any more than it matters whether Coke or Pepsi is #1 to someone who owns stock in both.<br />
Here&#8217;s a scary thought, though.  McCain is worried about losing the serpent handler vote to a third party, names Huckabee as VP and wins the election.  McCain has a stroke and dies or is incapacitated in late 2009.   Here comes Armageddon.</p>
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		<title>By: GM Roper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586859</link>
		<dc:creator>GM Roper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MC "...unlike Republicans, we really believe in the democratic process."

Oh Please!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MC &#8220;&#8230;unlike Republicans, we really believe in the democratic process.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh Please!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: evets</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586851</link>
		<dc:creator>evets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Have Howard Dean, Al Gore and Ted Kennedy (as representatives of the superdelegates) encourage the two to compete on who is stronger against McCain and keep the neg attacks to a minumum. Penalty for avoiding this counsel?"

I think the horse is already out of the barn.  BHO will have to go low against Hillary, if only to show he can.  That seems to be a job requirement at this point.  Proves you can be trusted with a red phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Have Howard Dean, Al Gore and Ted Kennedy (as representatives of the superdelegates) encourage the two to compete on who is stronger against McCain and keep the neg attacks to a minumum. Penalty for avoiding this counsel?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the horse is already out of the barn.  BHO will have to go low against Hillary, if only to show he can.  That seems to be a job requirement at this point.  Proves you can be trusted with a red phone.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama needs to win this thing so that I don't have to campaign and vote for Ralph Nader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama needs to win this thing so that I don&#8217;t have to campaign and vote for Ralph Nader.</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586849</link>
		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually jc, I was praising CBC as they were apparently the ones that got to the bottom of all this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually jc, I was praising CBC as they were apparently the ones that got to the bottom of all this.</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586848</link>
		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problems Marc but that's because I was never in the mood for burning at the stake. Unlike you and the "Witchfinder-General" Sullivan and his assistant Chris Hitchens (see him on "Morning Joe"? Hear about the infamous Resko and all of BHO's shady Iraqi friends? Hitch don't like Obama either and will shill for "Bomber" McCain) stuck in an alcoholic haze. I have differences with Hillary and have been commenting here for over a year and half that she was not inevitable. But, to me, it is not personal. I'll take her friends word that she is a thoughtful and likeable person and the fact that Chelsea turned out so wholesome (unlike Genna and not-Genna) suggests something went right. But then, unlike the other Chris (Matthews, that is) I'm not a member of the "He Men Woman Hater's Club" either. 

I suspect Obama to go negative. He demanded Hil's tax returns be released. While he's at it he could ask the same of McCain who has also been reticent. He might also ask St. John why all those lobbyists work for him - Charlie Black?

Here's an idea for you worrywarts that I heard from AIR AMERICA's David Bender - their political reporter. Have Howard Dean, Al Gore and Ted Kennedy (as representatives of the superdelegates) encourage the two to compete on who is stronger against McCain and keep the neg attacks to a minumum. Penalty for avoiding this counsel? The supes will vote en mass for the other guy. I like that idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problems Marc but that&#8217;s because I was never in the mood for burning at the stake. Unlike you and the &#8220;Witchfinder-General&#8221; Sullivan and his assistant Chris Hitchens (see him on &#8220;Morning Joe&#8221;? Hear about the infamous Resko and all of BHO&#8217;s shady Iraqi friends? Hitch don&#8217;t like Obama either and will shill for &#8220;Bomber&#8221; McCain) stuck in an alcoholic haze. I have differences with Hillary and have been commenting here for over a year and half that she was not inevitable. But, to me, it is not personal. I&#8217;ll take her friends word that she is a thoughtful and likeable person and the fact that Chelsea turned out so wholesome (unlike Genna and not-Genna) suggests something went right. But then, unlike the other Chris (Matthews, that is) I&#8217;m not a member of the &#8220;He Men Woman Hater&#8217;s Club&#8221; either. </p>
<p>I suspect Obama to go negative. He demanded Hil&#8217;s tax returns be released. While he&#8217;s at it he could ask the same of McCain who has also been reticent. He might also ask St. John why all those lobbyists work for him - Charlie Black?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an idea for you worrywarts that I heard from AIR AMERICA&#8217;s David Bender - their political reporter. Have Howard Dean, Al Gore and Ted Kennedy (as representatives of the superdelegates) encourage the two to compete on who is stronger against McCain and keep the neg attacks to a minumum. Penalty for avoiding this counsel? The supes will vote en mass for the other guy. I like that idea.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586846</link>
		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harper has proven relatively independent of the US lately, strongly critical of Israel in Gaza (but recent canadain standards) and publicly criticizing the world pushing for Kosovo (Bondsteel Airbase) "independence" (I think its understandable why any Canadian government would oppose Kosovo indpeendence, as a Quebec separatist myself)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harper has proven relatively independent of the US lately, strongly critical of Israel in Gaza (but recent canadain standards) and publicly criticizing the world pushing for Kosovo (Bondsteel Airbase) &#8220;independence&#8221; (I think its understandable why any Canadian government would oppose Kosovo indpeendence, as a Quebec separatist myself)</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586845</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RLC: The Coopers, the Hitchens and the Sullivans? Geez, Richard, you forgot to add the Cheneys, the Addams, and the Mansons!  You're just warming up, as Hillary loves to say.

But in any case, I'm more than happy to remain un-associated with the Clinton family and would rather any of the above as a second cousin before I'd have Chelsea. I'll leave that stinky crew to y'all.

And as to what Reg said... I can't believe that any intellectually honest person believes that Clinton somehow has different instincts on foreign policy than John McCain. I see no effective difference between them, other than momentary tactical campaign positioning.

Would you like to paw through those transcripts of a few years ago when Hillary and McCain did their JOINT fact finding trip in Iraq? They were virtual Bobsey twins.

Hillary puts exactly NO more at ease than McCain on that front. You can have her.

As to Dan O: I dont know about Nader. Dont think Im going down that road. But I cant imagine myself casting a vote for Hillary Clinton. And, yes, let Obama roll out ALL the dirt if necessary.

I can't wait until Clinton is forced to release her tax returns. It will immediately become a class project for my investigative reporting class -- and for daily newspapers across the country.

RLC, are you looking forward to the disclosures about which foreign governments have given millions to Bill's library? I certainly am. So is the RNC.  Get ready to lose, amigo. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RLC: The Coopers, the Hitchens and the Sullivans? Geez, Richard, you forgot to add the Cheneys, the Addams, and the Mansons!  You&#8217;re just warming up, as Hillary loves to say.</p>
<p>But in any case, I&#8217;m more than happy to remain un-associated with the Clinton family and would rather any of the above as a second cousin before I&#8217;d have Chelsea. I&#8217;ll leave that stinky crew to y&#8217;all.</p>
<p>And as to what Reg said&#8230; I can&#8217;t believe that any intellectually honest person believes that Clinton somehow has different instincts on foreign policy than John McCain. I see no effective difference between them, other than momentary tactical campaign positioning.</p>
<p>Would you like to paw through those transcripts of a few years ago when Hillary and McCain did their JOINT fact finding trip in Iraq? They were virtual Bobsey twins.</p>
<p>Hillary puts exactly NO more at ease than McCain on that front. You can have her.</p>
<p>As to Dan O: I dont know about Nader. Dont think Im going down that road. But I cant imagine myself casting a vote for Hillary Clinton. And, yes, let Obama roll out ALL the dirt if necessary.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait until Clinton is forced to release her tax returns. It will immediately become a class project for my investigative reporting class &#8212; and for daily newspapers across the country.</p>
<p>RLC, are you looking forward to the disclosures about which foreign governments have given millions to Bill&#8217;s library? I certainly am. So is the RNC.  Get ready to lose, amigo. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I add do not blame the CBC.  Its CTV, a private network, not CBC, that is responsible for the story.</description>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586843</link>
		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about Harper, RLC - and I'll add that even moreso I blame the corporate owners of CTV, Bell Canada and the thompson family, close friends of Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about Harper, RLC - and I&#8217;ll add that even moreso I blame the corporate owners of CTV, Bell Canada and the thompson family, close friends of Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it, Mondale is the guy to convene the come-to-Jesus conclave with Hillary.  Of course he would have to be convinced that she has no reasonable chance of winning, but if he were, he would be the guy.  First, he has endorsed her.  Second, she stole his red-phone piece, and she owes him...

No one really has the right to demand that she drop out, but the party surely has every right to demand that she not conduct her campaign in a way that damages the chances of the other candidate, who because of his lead is odds-on to head the ticket in every state.   As some of the talking-heads correctly noted last night, this is what DNC chairs must do.  If Howard Dean suspects that HRC and her people won't listen to him, it is his duty to find someone to whom she will listen.  Again, Mondale is the best I can think of.  Jimmy Carter would be good because he could talk about the damage some of Ted Kennedy's arguments did him in 1980, but the Clintons dislike Carter about as much as they do EMK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it, Mondale is the guy to convene the come-to-Jesus conclave with Hillary.  Of course he would have to be convinced that she has no reasonable chance of winning, but if he were, he would be the guy.  First, he has endorsed her.  Second, she stole his red-phone piece, and she owes him&#8230;</p>
<p>No one really has the right to demand that she drop out, but the party surely has every right to demand that she not conduct her campaign in a way that damages the chances of the other candidate, who because of his lead is odds-on to head the ticket in every state.   As some of the talking-heads correctly noted last night, this is what DNC chairs must do.  If Howard Dean suspects that HRC and her people won&#8217;t listen to him, it is his duty to find someone to whom she will listen.  Again, Mondale is the best I can think of.  Jimmy Carter would be good because he could talk about the damage some of Ted Kennedy&#8217;s arguments did him in 1980, but the Clintons dislike Carter about as much as they do EMK.</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jcummings I'd be more concerned about the CBC's coverage of Harper's dirty hands all over the "NAFTAGate" story. What is it about Conservative Commonwealth PMs that makes them want to Dis Obama. Maybe he should recall what happened to Howard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jcummings I&#8217;d be more concerned about the CBC&#8217;s coverage of Harper&#8217;s dirty hands all over the &#8220;NAFTAGate&#8221; story. What is it about Conservative Commonwealth PMs that makes them want to Dis Obama. Maybe he should recall what happened to Howard!</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the deep ideological fissures?  

Sorry, RLC - I didn't see your post before posting htat Perlstein blog.  But first of all, between those who accept democracy and those who settle for establishment fises, there is a huge fissure.  Second, and more importantly, most post-80s social upheavals - the Caracazo, the Nepalese Revolution, the Intifada, start over relatively minor occurences, in comparison with vote rigging.  Obama has raised people's hopes so high that they'll be angry as hell, and potentially revolutionary in a situation in which Hillary can use racism and cheating to win the nomination. 

Hillary Kerensky!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the deep ideological fissures?  </p>
<p>Sorry, RLC - I didn&#8217;t see your post before posting htat Perlstein blog.  But first of all, between those who accept democracy and those who settle for establishment fises, there is a huge fissure.  Second, and more importantly, most post-80s social upheavals - the Caracazo, the Nepalese Revolution, the Intifada, start over relatively minor occurences, in comparison with vote rigging.  Obama has raised people&#8217;s hopes so high that they&#8217;ll be angry as hell, and potentially revolutionary in a situation in which Hillary can use racism and cheating to win the nomination. </p>
<p>Hillary Kerensky!</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Dan O says, and then some.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-perlstein/some-apocalyptic-observat_b_90096.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Dan O says, and then some.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-perlstein/some-apocalyptic-observat_b_90096.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-perlstein/some-apocalyptic-observat_b_90096.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are all the people who revile Nader for 2000 prepared to cast Hilary in the same role in 2008 should the dems lose?  You should be.

By all accounts, a win by Hilary--in this case that means a delegate lead--is all but impossible.  Yet she soldiers on.  Why?  Does she want to recast the party as Nader hoped?  That can't be, since Bill already did that, this is a fait accompli--nothing left to be done there.

So really, she's just the Nader of ambition.  She soldiers on, becasue she wants to be pres and only for that reason.  That's why they run in the first place of course, but allegiance to party is generally expected to trump personal ambition.  Unless you are a Clinton.

What does she hope to achieve beyond her personal wants?  Nothing.  And what damage will she do along the way?  A lot.  As people here have pointed out she has to criticize Obama to gain momentum at this point, and she'll keep on providing fodder for the opposition, making a win over McCain that much harder.

I just hope Obama gives it right back to her.  She can't win the nomination straight up, so put her away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are all the people who revile Nader for 2000 prepared to cast Hilary in the same role in 2008 should the dems lose?  You should be.</p>
<p>By all accounts, a win by Hilary&#8211;in this case that means a delegate lead&#8211;is all but impossible.  Yet she soldiers on.  Why?  Does she want to recast the party as Nader hoped?  That can&#8217;t be, since Bill already did that, this is a fait accompli&#8211;nothing left to be done there.</p>
<p>So really, she&#8217;s just the Nader of ambition.  She soldiers on, becasue she wants to be pres and only for that reason.  That&#8217;s why they run in the first place of course, but allegiance to party is generally expected to trump personal ambition.  Unless you are a Clinton.</p>
<p>What does she hope to achieve beyond her personal wants?  Nothing.  And what damage will she do along the way?  A lot.  As people here have pointed out she has to criticize Obama to gain momentum at this point, and she&#8217;ll keep on providing fodder for the opposition, making a win over McCain that much harder.</p>
<p>I just hope Obama gives it right back to her.  She can&#8217;t win the nomination straight up, so put her away.</p>
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		<title>By: evets</title>
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		<dc:creator>evets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Iâ€™m goping to enjoy this. The Dems will have v\center stage all Spring. "

Yeah - like gladiators in the coliseum.</description>
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<p>Yeah - like gladiators in the coliseum.</p>
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		<title>By: bunkerbuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunkerbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether McCain or Clinton expands or curtails American chauvinism depends not on their personality or enigmatic ideology but on how they read the political winds.

    If they campaign on chauvinism and win on it, why would anyone expect them to turn their backs on it? On the other hand, if their focus groups and polling show that they need to carefully spin the Iraq issue to avoid being seen as chauvinist, they will heed that as well once elected.

     The peace movement, or people who believe in the superiority of diplomacy and "soft power" over military aggression, should know by now that simply electing a new president won't bring a fundamental change in policy.

    Bill Clinton certainly dailed down the chauvinism, but didn't bring fundamental change because he had correctly calculated that his political survival depended on appeasing the Bubba vote. He knew that half of the American left, i.e. the Marc Coopers of the world, would never be satisfied with anyone short of The Messaiah, and the other half had either gone to sleep or fragmented into quixotic single-issue campaigns headed mostly by feckless identity seekers.

    Presidential elections are fun (although this one has seems to have prompted Marc to sensationally sqaunder every shred of journalistic credibility he ever had)  and we all hope for the best. But we have to remember that the ideology and personality fo the candidates is only a template through which they interpret voter sentiment. Their decisions are ultimately depend on the variable, then, which is the political wind and which way it's blowing.

   Obama moves us slightly away from this model, it seems, because his claim is that he's actually engaging in politics, meaning he's trying to build a new majority by power of broad-minded persuasion, rather than via small-minded marketing tactics. And there is evidence that he's succeeding. Let's hope so.

And...some of the wingnut blogs are crowing that their tactic of having Republicans vote for Hillary in open primaries has worked...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether McCain or Clinton expands or curtails American chauvinism depends not on their personality or enigmatic ideology but on how they read the political winds.</p>
<p>    If they campaign on chauvinism and win on it, why would anyone expect them to turn their backs on it? On the other hand, if their focus groups and polling show that they need to carefully spin the Iraq issue to avoid being seen as chauvinist, they will heed that as well once elected.</p>
<p>     The peace movement, or people who believe in the superiority of diplomacy and &#8220;soft power&#8221; over military aggression, should know by now that simply electing a new president won&#8217;t bring a fundamental change in policy.</p>
<p>    Bill Clinton certainly dailed down the chauvinism, but didn&#8217;t bring fundamental change because he had correctly calculated that his political survival depended on appeasing the Bubba vote. He knew that half of the American left, i.e. the Marc Coopers of the world, would never be satisfied with anyone short of The Messaiah, and the other half had either gone to sleep or fragmented into quixotic single-issue campaigns headed mostly by feckless identity seekers.</p>
<p>    Presidential elections are fun (although this one has seems to have prompted Marc to sensationally sqaunder every shred of journalistic credibility he ever had)  and we all hope for the best. But we have to remember that the ideology and personality fo the candidates is only a template through which they interpret voter sentiment. Their decisions are ultimately depend on the variable, then, which is the political wind and which way it&#8217;s blowing.</p>
<p>   Obama moves us slightly away from this model, it seems, because his claim is that he&#8217;s actually engaging in politics, meaning he&#8217;s trying to build a new majority by power of broad-minded persuasion, rather than via small-minded marketing tactics. And there is evidence that he&#8217;s succeeding. Let&#8217;s hope so.</p>
<p>And&#8230;some of the wingnut blogs are crowing that their tactic of having Republicans vote for Hillary in open primaries has worked&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What bothers the Coopers, Sullivans, and Hitchens of this world is that every time they settle down for a good Auto-Da-Fe of Hillary she slips out of the trap and lives to fight another day. As a result more Concentrate bullshit per cubic litre is sprayed on the Dems and '08 than any other topic.

I see that the dreaded picture of Chicago '68 has been raised. Why? Where are the deep ideological fissures to create such a scenario. Unlike that year this war presents a unified voice - everyone hates it and wants out. It is John McCain who stakes all in the sands of Mesopotamia. Have we had other conventions where the outcome was unknown going in? Sure. Just about every contested one before 1976. This will be settled. Polls show the rank and file like both and probably hesitate picking because they do like them.

I'm goping to enjoy this. The Dems will have v\center stage all Spring. 

Meanwhile McCain sinks into the black hole of non-storydom begun today when he accepts the fatal embrace of the Decider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers the Coopers, Sullivans, and Hitchens of this world is that every time they settle down for a good Auto-Da-Fe of Hillary she slips out of the trap and lives to fight another day. As a result more Concentrate bullshit per cubic litre is sprayed on the Dems and &#8216;08 than any other topic.</p>
<p>I see that the dreaded picture of Chicago &#8216;68 has been raised. Why? Where are the deep ideological fissures to create such a scenario. Unlike that year this war presents a unified voice - everyone hates it and wants out. It is John McCain who stakes all in the sands of Mesopotamia. Have we had other conventions where the outcome was unknown going in? Sure. Just about every contested one before 1976. This will be settled. Polls show the rank and file like both and probably hesitate picking because they do like them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m goping to enjoy this. The Dems will have v\center stage all Spring. </p>
<p>Meanwhile McCain sinks into the black hole of non-storydom begun today when he accepts the fatal embrace of the Decider.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/its-3-am-and-hillarys-dreaming/#comment-586834</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Crosby,

As someone said McCain reminds me of the old man who lives next door and yells at you to get off his lawn.</description>
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<p>As someone said McCain reminds me of the old man who lives next door and yells at you to get off his lawn.</p>
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