Anyway, dude, I understand your “thesis” just fine. You’re equating Obama’s and McCain’s strategies: you’re saying both are above the belt. I rejected that thesis, and up to now you haven’t been able to sufficiently counter that rejection. Yes, you said that liberal blogs like Daily Kos are distorting McCain’s remarks, but that’s got nothing to do with Obama. Meanwhile McCain is aligning his message to the commander-in-chief’s. If Rove wasn’t behind that one, it sure smacks of it.

As I’ve already clearly shown, you’re flat out wrong on that. McCain, with the help of Bush, is actively distorting Obama’s message. There’s a huge difference, and frankly it is disingenuous of you to try to equate the two.

Uhhh, no chilly, my thesis was that what McCain was doing was NOT gutter politics or fear mongering.

“As I’ve already clearly shown…” I don’t know what to say to the utter foolishness of this claim except perhaps Bwahahahaha! Again Chilly, you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Which shows how thoroughly witless you are.

FDR allied along with Canada, the UK, the French exile government, Brazil and all the countries listed here.

Reagan acted unilaterally with regard to Saddam. As usual your analogy doesn’t hold water.

Blogger Daniel Davies made a good point some time back that how the media handles a foreign leader’s name tells us something about his standing with us. TV news goes out of its way to pronounce Sarkozy’s name close to right (we’ll never get the French r) sar.ko.ZEE. Not the same care for Ahmadi-nejad.

Rather than looking at whatever Reagan or whoever did whenever, think about how they would deal with situations today. No leader is perfect, but Reagan obtained the respect of other countries and didn’t mess around for a year with hostages in Iran.

I’d take Reagan’s foreign policies over the Obama/Carter policies.

That was Reagan. Other McCain lobbyists have attempted to burnish the image of people like Mobutu and the Burmese Junta. That’s what this whole post was about.

>>>Right, I forgot that it was the uneducated righties that keep mischaracterizing McCain’s statement in those right wing blogs such as Daily Koss and MyDD etc. You bet!

Fine, some people run with it. Thanks, again, for pointing out the obvious: Obama distills/highlights/headlines McCain’s pro-War message and some nuts, perhaps too many nuts, take it out of context.

No thanks, though, for your red herring. To bring you back, once again, to your original point, which is as follows:

Obama is fearmongering at a level equatable to that of McBush.

As I’ve already clearly shown, you’re flat out wrong on that. McCain, with the help of Bush, is actively distorting Obama’s message. There’s a huge difference, and frankly it is disingenuous of you to try to equate the two.

Aid dictators? Like refusing to oppose Saddam Hussein?

…Mr. McKinnon had said that he had policy differences with Mr. Obama, especially on Iraq, and that he believed Mr. McCain was best suited for the presidency because of his national security positions. But, he added, “I just don’t want to work against an Obama candidacy.”

Grenada? Get a grip http://tinyurl.com/3lweyh

Ironically, Cuban influence has returned to Grenada. The countries renewed diplomatic ties in 1992 and Cuba has funded scholarships for Grenadians and helped with construction projects including a 270-bed hospital opened this year. Cuban doctors, nurses and teachers are permanent fixtures on the island of 100,000 people.

“The Cubans do good work. Why doesn’t the United States help us more?” asked 45-year-old Mary Parke. She works at a mental ward that was accidentally bombed by U.S. forces in the invasion, sending bleeding and naked patients spilling out onto the street.

You left out support for death squads in El Salvador that murdered priests, selling weapons to a terrorist state, selling weapons to Saddam Hussein, supporting the brutal occupation of East Timor by Indonesia, drug dealing by the contras, supporting Noriega in Panama.

As for the fall of communism, you conveniently ignore movements like Solidarity and individuals like Vaclav Havel who did far more at great personal risk than Reagan ever did.

Reagan helped as many dictators as he opposed. As long as they opposed communism, he could care less.

Remember when I said you weren’t serious. You’re still not.

No Randy. Not Hitler silly.

I forgot Fidel, Communists in Grenada, Marxists in Nicaragua, Soviet dictator in E Germany, Soviet dictator in Checkoslovakia, Marxist dictator in…..
need I go on?

I didn’t really forget Randy. The freedom’s list was just too long. Acknowledge Reagan, or tear down some walls for yourself. Geeze, the audacity!

At least one former member of McCain’s team has integrity.