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June 15th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
He said, ‘in the coming days 90% of the oil flow will come to a stop’
That is a jolt! I hope that it is true.
June 15th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Invoking the blessing of the fleet…I have never heard so much hot air being blown up so many people’s asses.
NOt one substantive declarative sentence addressing specific actions and talking how redress was going to be done by lack of enforcement of directives to BP by OSHA and the EPA etc.
He talks about rebuilding the gulf AFTER THE CATASTROPHE rather than what he is putting into motion to remediate and put into production any equipment or calling for boots on the ground.
He didnt even use this to make a knck down drag outdemand for getting off oil.
He just blew hot air with empty rhetoric. And right now Howard Fineman is agreeing with me. As have dozens of other pundits.
Impeach him and let Biden take over.
June 15th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
is it the 26 th amendment or 25th that deals with a president being incompetent.
June 15th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Here’s a low tide for ya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfTTckgn-mo
June 15th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
“Impeach him and let Biden take over.”
Your stupid comment was incomplete. You forgot to mention that Obama is worse than Bush.
June 15th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Thse announced “concrete measure” (the escrow account) isn’t (well…) set in concrete just yet:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-15/bp-white-house-escrow-deal-stalls-as-obama-to-meet-executives.html
I am not aware that executive power is sufficent to compel the Escrow Acc’t. If BP refuses to agree to a third party administrator or escrow what options short of a court case does this administration have?
June 15th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
A Low Tide Sinks All Boats:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bp-credit-rating-slashed-six-notches-by-fitch-2010-06-15
BP’s credit rating is almost junk.
June 15th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
The Lakers looked good, at least.
June 16th, 2010 at 4:37 am
What the hell do you people want? He’s gonna appoint a commision, for chrissakes.
June 16th, 2010 at 7:26 am
And the had of god.
June 16th, 2010 at 7:26 am
…that’s ‘hand’.
June 16th, 2010 at 8:40 am
I lost all hope a long time ago. From Guantanamo, to the wars, to catering to Wall Street, to the lack of a public option in health care; everything has been a disappointment.
June 16th, 2010 at 9:12 am
From Huff Po…says it all
* Lawrence Lessig…
Jason Linkins
Jason Linkins: Obama’s Oil Spill Speech: What Was the Point?
I am really not entirely sure what the point to this Oval Office address was! Were you looking for something that resembled a fully-realized action plan, describing a detailed approach to containment and clean up? Or perhaps a definitive statement, severing the command and control that BP has largely enjoyed, in favor of a structured, centralized federal response? Maybe you were looking for a roadmap-slash-timetable for putting America on a path to a clean energy future? Well, this speech was none of those things. Here’s what we learned, instea
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Kevin: invoke the amendment that would let Biden take over. Obama has a screw loose. That rambling babble last night could be sliced and diced by a psychologist.
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Thank god for Markey and a few others who are on the committee that is gathering evidence of both Fed agency and BP abuse.
One of my contacts for work, the exec dir of the environmental org that has been advocating for the clean up workers and monitoring the hazard, was on Olbermann last night! And her colleague also testified before the House committee a few days ago.
The only prescient and memorable thing out of Obama’s mouth has been: ‘we are the one’s we have been waiting for’
June 16th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Pablo, this article–the best on what has gone down inside the administration–cites a law around oil spill regulation that the president could use to take control of the situation.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965?RS_show_page=0
June 16th, 2010 at 11:41 am
BTW do you guys know there is more than one leak? The pressure and speed at which the oil is gushing is eroding the casing. The depth that the oil is coming out of and the water temp also causing oil to disperse…plume and stay in the column and its full of horrific toxins naturally occurring from the mixture of gases and oil gushing out.
The possible resulting scenarios that have been discussed won’t quite fit into Dan’s my spills bigger than your spill’s reductionist game.
June 16th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
more takes on Obama’s bizarre prattle last night:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/obamas-missed-opportunity_b_614027.html
June 16th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Can you say…’methane hydrates?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/20/deepwater-methane-hydrates-bp-gulf
June 16th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
You got a $20 Billion dollar jolt and an apology from the Chairman of BP that, frankly, establishes publicly the company’s liability. Sorry Obama’s speech didn’t make the leftish punditry or the right-wing nutjobs happy. It wasn’t a classic – just workmanlike in a situation where every faction was looking to be juiced by the Prez. But he delivered today big-time for the people hurt by this with a $20 billion down payment by the culprits – not that it will matter to the chattering class.
June 16th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Anna – you’re a fucking nutcase. Talk about screws loose. Get a checkup. Quit boring me with your anxieties.
June 16th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
That Bob Williams is echoing the lefties here – and sounding like the usual goddamned fool in the light of Obama’s real day in the life – as opposed to minding the playschoolers who need nurturing – says everything I need to know about this crapola.
Grow the fuck up.
June 16th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
That Obama convinced BP to pony up is a good start towards remediation…. actions always better than words.
Good for him, too… as there are no statuatory requirements for BP to play ball. I was happily surprised that the Chairman struck the right tone…
Devil is in the details and in the follow through.
There is still an indemnification cap which BP has indicated it is willing to exceed…..
But this all has do do with remediation; not abatement of the hole in the Gulf of Texaco which leaks an Exxon Valdez twice a week.
Obama has promised a 90% reduction soon and a complete abatement by the end of summer. I hope he is right.
A comission will recommend regulations which will be watered down by Congress now or ignored once the baton is handed to Republicans sometime down the line…..
and you got that straight from a leftie (or is it ‘lefty’?) Reg.
June 16th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
I could say the same about you, reg, and your endlessly repetitive rags on Woody saying the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome…oh, wait, thats Einstein’s definition of insanity.
Try exercising your analytical muscles rather than your…well, I won’t get that rude…but rather than sailing off into the land of make believe and wishful thinking and the disconnect of arguing political abstractions maybe you and the rest of the boys might want to see if you can deconstruct this:
“”A few months ago, I approved a proposal to consider new, limited offshore drilling under the assurance that it would be absolutely safe — that the proper technology would be in place and the necessary precautions would be taken. That obviously was not the case on the Deepwater Horizon rig, and I want to know why.”
That, from the man who is supposed to be running the country.
June 16th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Do you know about methane hydrates, reg, maybe you ought to read the fucking article as there are issues that directly relate to what is happening.
It is inconceivable to me that you guys do nothing but jerk off over talking head bullshit rather than get any information about the background to what has actually occurred. Dan thinks posting a little picture comparing sizes of oil spills–guess that size comparison thing is a guy thing, eh–reduces what has happened to something that is no more than an excuse for him to comment in a blog.
Reg, your calling Obama’s speech “workmanlike’ demonstrates you someone in as much denial about reality as Obama. No wonder you like him so much and continually apologize for his outrageous blunders. You are the one who needs a fucking check up. There is hardly a person on the planet that doesnt think his speech demonstrated he is completely disconnected from reality and practicalities. I have posted several links to those who have expressed it every which way. You quit boring ME with your hysterical assaults on anyone who doesn’t agree with you. In fact you are pretty fucking defensive about ol Obama. Guess you are feeling the heat in the fact that you realize he is not the darling you wished him to be so now you are lashing out…
June 16th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
You are as closed minded as Obama…thats why we are in this mess in the first place. He probably didn’t read those SCIENTIFIC REPORTS EITHER WHEN GIVING THE GREENLIGHT TO MORE OFFSHORE DEEPWATER DRILLING.
You are really an asshole, reg, for refusing to read critical information and the verified reports of cave ins and explanations of why and how they have happened.
It is astonishing that all that interests any of you is to argue over bullshit rather than deal with what actually happened.
June 16th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
stick this up your ass…reg and Dan:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/oil-spill-forces-animals-_n_615003.html
June 16th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
contrary to to the Greenpeace observers who say there arent as many dead animals yet in the water is marine toxicologist Rikki Otts testimony that she and others have documented BP paid crews going out and collecting carcasses…
June 16th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
. But he delivered today big-time for the people hurt by this with a $20 billion down payment by the culprits – not that it will matter to the chattering class.—REG
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I think you mean ‘chattering classes’.
Just ouside our fraccionamiento near Ensenada, Señora de González del Rio, our local fishmonger can talk until the fish we buy begins to rot. In her eighties she swears on a stack of virgins to recall the day that President Lázaro Cárdenas del Río nationalized in 1938 the holdings of Standard Oil, risking life and coup from angry gringos in Washington.
To top things off he granted political asylum to Leon Trotsky…. who hung out with Diego Rivera and Freida Kahlo…. Trotsky got hammered through the devious doings of David Alfaro Siqueiros and perhaps even Pablo Neruda…. but his legacy, some say, lives on in Peter Camejo and Ralph Nader.
Señora de González keeps a photo of each of these luminaries in her market stall but has a shrine honoring President Cárdenas for creating PEMEX and booting out the capitalista yanquis.
We spoke briefly of the tragedy in Gulf of Texaco and then she launched into a monologue on how Obama can acheive “sainthood” (this from a communist, mind you) if he would follow the footsteps of the late President Cárdenas who rests among the pantheon of “saints” in the celestial worker’s paradise. I assume Trotsky, Camejo, the artists, and the poet are there too!
Now you know why we keep buying fish from her. Sometimes there is a classless aspect to these chattering classes…scratch one hard enough and you’ll see ‘red’.
You can find Compañera Señora de González del Rio in the marketplace just before Punta Banda on the ‘libre’… except Sunday.
June 16th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Anna,
I posted that infographic without commentary of any kind, and I drew no conclusions or implications. Data is simply data.
On another note, since you’ve decided to take over the comments section this place has become a cesspool. 40-50% of the comments on every post consist of your serial narcissistic rants. At the moment 12 of 27 comments are yours.
It used to be fun to listen to different people engage with one another here. Do you ever wonder where many of the old regulars have gone? I don’t. I’m pretty sure why their comments are now very, very rare. You, baby.
Well count me in. I’m done with you. The fun of interacting here with folks just isn’t fun any more, so why keep doing it? That’s on your head, not that you give a single shit. You’ve choked the life out of this little community.
No doubt this all will make you happy rather than make you think.
Later.
June 16th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
I’m here to read Marc’s posts, not your creepy “interactions”.
June 16th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
I agree with you Dan.
Anna, two comments per thread. Period.
June 16th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
I found it sad but interesting to see Obama sitting down with the CEO of BP as if he was the head of state of another country. That meeting was a vivid and frightening display of the power of multi national corporations.
The United States government negotiating with the head of a multi national entity otherwise known as a corporation. Truly remarkable.
I also find pathetically hilarious all the finger pointing at BP as a unique villain. As if a catastrophe of this magnitude couldn’t happen on some other rig owned by some other oil conglomerate.
In the 40 or so years since the Iranian oil embargo the US has done practically nothing to move from a petroleum based economy to clean energy. And in those 40 years the American public has largely swallowed the right wing nostrums that government should rarely if ever attempt to limit corporate power.
Well this is the result of that belief system in action. I think it’s called reaping the whirlwind.
June 17th, 2010 at 11:18 am
The size of the spill is probably the single most important parameter.
Here’s another data point that did not appear in the graphic Dan pointed to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakeview_Gusher
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January 18th, 2011 at 6:08 am
argue, argue, argue. Thats what you libs are all about. Why don`t you libs quit defending this obama creep about his reactions to the oil spill, and ask youself and Mr. obama why did this happen? I wonder where he was during the explosion. Come on, idiots,nice way to stop oil drilling in the gulf, and keep his money contacts with his arabian buddies, isn`t it? I THINK He caused this blow out. It sure was nice of him to send the task force to investigate the explosion. I guess they were going to shoot the oil rig to death.GOOD MOVE! I also wonder why wiikileaks got started, especially after the internet has been the death of obama`s career, and he would love to take it over. It sure is funny how there is always a disaster when obamas needs to prove something might happen if not done his way. MAFIA TACTICS???????????????????????????????????