Jim R Says:
December 8th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Referring to The Charmer.

Hey, I’m rude !!!

I have read the articles that you have pointed out to me. Thx.

While I do not agree with Marc Cooper on some of the assertions he made in those articles I do feel that these were legitimately offered and probably reflect his thinking during that time (the chief assertion being that Gore raised the Willie Horton issue against Dukakis in the primary and that the Right carried this bone into the general election). I can’t attest to its veracity but so what?
That’s what he choses to write.

I also noted from CounterPunch that Cooper has generalized critiques for the Right and particular critiques of the left; a trait which I have noticed on this blog.

I take it that you feel that Cooper is a wolf in sheeps clothing?

While I don’t agree with Cooper doesn’t mean that I can’t respect his honest views, I do; something which hasn’t been reciprocated towards me. This means I can enjoy challenging him here without a shred of responsibility arising from any possibility of changing his mind… as age colors the tabula-rasa to an idee-fixe portraiture, museum quality, sutible for framing; I am pigeon-holed.. the one who disagrees fits in among the disagreeable… (“a revolutionary.”" a Chavista. ” etc. whatever label tossed my way).

Don’t let that happen to you, Third Chamer.

There is a bit of irony that just 10 days after announcing the deployment of 30,000 more American troops to Afghanistan, President Obama will accept the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize tomorrow in Oslo, Norway.

Bed of nails I can understand reg, but urine of goats?
Are you saying you have tried some and found goat’s foul?

Urine: The Golden Elixir (excepting goats : http://tinyurl.com/6ro8s2

Hey, speak for yourself! Mmmmm, goat urine (uttered with Homer Simpson intonation).

This is true. Nor do we sleep on beds of nails or ingest the urine of goats.

Oh, to the contrary, I absolutely desire that Pablo engage trolls–the potential for entertainment and high comedy is off the charts. Please do not misinterpret my fair warning as a discouragement.

“Also, I don’t parrot conservative talking points.”

Of course not–if you did, your comments would be informative. What you parrot are right wing extremist talking points.

I didn’t read the rest–it’s a bit wordy for you, which is not your strong suit.

Also, I don’t parrot conservative talking points. People here know that. I make up my own mind on issues and state them without waiting to see what others have to say first. I doubt that liberals here even read The Free Republic or watch Fox and Friends to compare their points with mine.

Marc’s site isn’t a “liberals-only” site despite those on the left trying to turn it into one and their running off conservatives. What drew me to this site in the beginning was Marc’s fair handedness with the right and left. It’s better to have boths sides of issues discussed rather than everyone from just one side agreeing and limiting their perspectives.

In other words, I’m doing my part to help liberals from constantly inbreeding, a practice that results in recessive or deleterious traits common to them. You, I don’t see as that type.

As far as Rich goes, google his name at
“The Daily Howler.” It’s all there, quotes
provided. “Love Canel” and “Love Story”
are good places to start. This stuff was
parroted throughout the chattering class
including the progressive left.

As mentioned this week, Cooper went to
Al Gore invented Willie Horton” in his relentless
attempt to smear Gore in 2000. Those pieces,
I don’t think, will ever see the light of day again.

“Well, again, since men like Rich and Cooper
can’t change the past (both printed outright
falsehoods useful in electing George Bush
President in 2000) at least they rather politely
confront the present. ”
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You can’t just throw this out there without some explanation for those outside the loop.
How so?
It seems that Gore had the votes and Nader had the issues while Bush had the courts.
I think Cooper was doing Radio Nation back then (I could have mis-remembered), and while interesting did not have that reach sufficent to swing elections.
So a few examples of the ‘outright falsehoods’ are in order.

The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now — with somebody — and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.

It will be a Religious War, a sort of Christian Jihad, fueled by religious hatred and led by merciless fanatics on both sides. It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy. Osama bin Laden may be a primitive “figurehead” — or even dead, for all we know — but whoever put those All-American jet planes loaded with All-American fuel into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon did it with chilling precision and accuracy. The second one was a dead-on bullseye. Straight into the middle of the skyscraper.

Nothing — even George Bush’s $350 billion “Star Wars” missile defense system — could have prevented Tuesday’s attack, and it cost next to nothing to pull off. Fewer than 20 unarmed Suicide soldiers from some apparently primitive country somewhere on the other side of the world took out the World Trade Center and half the Pentagon with three quick and costless strikes on one day. The efficiency of it was terrifying.

We are going to punish somebody for this attack, but just who or what will be blown to smithereens for it is hard to say. Maybe Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan or Iraq, or possibly all three at once. Who knows? Not even the Generals in what remains of the Pentagon or the New York papers calling for WAR seem to know who did it or where to look for them.

This is going to be a very expensive war, and Victory is not guaranteed — for anyone, and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush. All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago, and that he, the goofy child-President, has been chosen by Fate and the global Oil industry to finish it Now. He will declare a National Security Emergency and clamp down Hard on Everybody, no matter where they live or why. If the guilty won’t hold up their hands and confess, he and the Generals will ferret them out by force.

Good luck. He is in for a profoundly difficult job — armed as he is with no credible Military Intelligence, no witnesses and only the ghost of Bin Laden to blame for the tragedy.
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Hunter Thompson, September 11th, 2001