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Part of my job includes vocational counseling and job placement for individuals who are trying to get off state assistance (similar to welfare) and live independently. These individuals often have criminal records and myriad other factors that make it difficult to hold down a job. In my experience, as bluntly as I can state it: even these folks don’t want the types of jobs that illegal immigrants usually take. They want respectable jobs that they can sustain themselves and their families with, that have benefits and positive long-term prospectives. Now, working with illegal immigrants separately, I cannot think of one I have met that has ever held a job meeting those criteria. They work in kitchens, as housecleaners, as janitors, as street vendors, etc. And with the exception of a few janitors who may be covered by SEIU, they have no benefits, job stability, etc… nothing that makes the job worthwhile or attractive for their American counterparts. Illegal immigrants aren’t stealing jobs from needy Americans… they’re filling essential jobs that no Americans want, because you cannot eke out a decent living in this country working those positions.

Illegal immigrants face more exploitation and danger than nearly any other population in this country, so do not fool yourself into thinking they lead golden lives full of luxury and leisure without any obligation to the welfare of the population amongst which they live. Clearly, if you had taken the time to do some ethnographic study of immigrant issues, including especially the logistics of their employment and lifestyle, you would know that many illegals are paid with checks by their employers. Yes, this requires providing a fake social security number – a crime which immigration reform could easily fix – but the point is that the state and the feds are still getting their fair share of taxes, SS, etc. from these workers, who will never see a penny in return. Which also uncovers another common misconception about illegal immigrants: that they freeload of the state by sucking up social services which they don’t contribute to supporting because they don’t pay taxes. Again, from a firsthand perspective I can tell you this is entirely untrue, at least in the state of Connecticut (where I am employed). Only citizens are eligible for any type of subsidized support, from Food Stamps to state subsidized health insurance to cover medical and psychiatric treatment, to Section-8 housing supports and Head Start. Providing a false security number won’t even get you in the door here, because they are checked and re-checked at the outset. So, you have a large immigrant population who work jobs that no citizen, even the most down-and-out despondent ones, wants to take. They pay taxes which they are not allowed to reap the benefits of, and are forced to live in substandard housing environments and receive substandard medical care (and even only for emergencies, at that), that they utilize at their own risk lest the officials catch onto them.

It is not that Mexicans are unable to find work in their own country; it’s that the average worker – skilled or unskilled – is unable to amass enough savings to lead a decent life. Housing there is inexpensive, as is food, but beyond that everything else is an extravagance that most working and middle class families cannot afford. This is Mexico’s problem, naturally, that it mishandles its revenue and hasn’t made higher education and entrepreneurship more accessible to the general population. But the U.S. is not entirely free of blame for that either, because Mexico spends a huge chunk of its revenue paying off its debt to… you guessed it… the stars and stripes. So maybe at this juncture, annexing Mexico wouldn’t be such a bad move, since we’re already draining it of most of its wealth and giving it the all around short end of the stick on everything from trade deals to legalizing temporary immigration.

From the vantage of employers of ‘illegals’, it’s also desirable to have strict anti-immigrant laws to frighten ‘illegal’ workers into a state of non-resistance in the workplace.

It’s interesting that you run away from this reality.

Wages depend on supply and demand. Too much supply (illegal workers) and you have lots of workers chasing the same demand for labor. Result? Lower and lower wages. You want to trace the decline in the US wages?

Look no further than illegal immigration. Increased illegal immigration correlates nicely with real wages falling. But oh no let’s have Uber-PC.

Something HAS to be done. That means yes penalizing immigrants who break the law; and employers as well. It has to be done. Otherwise you condemn US citizens to being underpriced by people willing to work in appalling conditions for almost not money. YES this means making the economic incentive negative for illegal immigrants as well as employers. People respond to incentives.

The same people who cry about outsourcing celebrate illegal immigration. It’s the same thing, an attempt to cheapen labor rates.

Yes Lefties (mostly wealthy Malibu millionaires) want cheaper maids and housekeepers and such. Hence their support for illegal immigration. How many Clinton appointees had “nanny problems?”

Bottom line: unless we stop illegal immigration and push illegal immigrants out we are looking at inevitably simply annexing Mexico. We can’t afford to employ 40 million Mexicans unable to find work in their home country.

Part of my job includes vocational counseling and job placement for individuals who are trying to get off state assistance (similar to welfare) and live independently. These individuals often have criminal records and myriad other factors that make it difficult to hold down a job. In my experience, as bluntly as I can state it: even these folks don’t want the types of jobs that illegal immigrants usually take. They want respectable jobs that they can sustain themselves and their families with, that have benefits and positive long-term prospectives. Now, working with illegal immigrants separately, I cannot think of one I have met that has ever held a job meeting those criteria. They work in kitchens, as housecleaners, as janitors, as street vendors, etc. And with the exception of a few janitors who may be covered by SEIU, they have no benefits, job stability, etc… nothing that makes the job worthwhile or attractive for their American counterparts. Illegal immigrants aren’t stealing jobs from needy Americans… they’re filling essential jobs that no Americans want, because you cannot eke out a decent living in this country working those positions.

Illegal immigrants face more exploitation and danger than nearly any other population in this country, so do not fool yourself into thinking they lead golden lives full of luxury and leisure without any obligation to the welfare of the population amongst which they live. Clearly, if you had taken the time to do some ethnographic study of immigrant issues, including especially the logistics of their employment and lifestyle, you would know that many illegals are paid with checks by their employers. Yes, this requires providing a fake social security number – a crime which immigration reform could easily fix – but the point is that the state and the feds are still getting their fair share of taxes, SS, etc. from these workers, who will never see a penny in return. Which also uncovers another common misconception about illegal immigrants: that they freeload of the state by sucking up social services which they don’t contribute to supporting because they don’t pay taxes. Again, from a firsthand perspective I can tell you this is entirely untrue, at least in the state of Connecticut (where I am employed). Only citizens are eligible for any type of subsidized support, from Food Stamps to state subsidized health insurance to cover medical and psychiatric treatment, to Section-8 housing supports and Head Start. Providing a false security number won’t even get you in the door here, because they are checked and re-checked at the outset. So, you have a large immigrant population who work jobs that no citizen, even the most down-and-out despondent ones, wants to take. They pay taxes which they are not allowed to reap the benefits of, and are forced to live in substandard housing environments and receive substandard medical care (and even only for emergencies, at that), that they utilize at their own risk lest the officials catch onto them.

It is not that Mexicans are unable to find work in their own country; it’s that the average worker – skilled or unskilled – is unable to amass enough savings to lead a decent life. Housing there is inexpensive, as is food, but beyond that everything else is an extravagance that most working and middle class families cannot afford. This is Mexico’s problem, naturally, that it mishandles its revenue and hasn’t made higher education and entrepreneurship more accessible to the general population. But the U.S. is not entirely free of blame for that either, because Mexico spends a huge chunk of its revenue paying off its debt to… you guessed it… the stars and stripes. So maybe at this juncture, annexing Mexico wouldn’t be such a bad move, since we’re already draining it of most of its wealth and giving it the all around short end of the stick on everything from trade deals to legalizing temporary immigration.