You would be talking about the magazine business, be it online or otherwise. And while a handful of advertisers prefer a tightly targeted audience to a mass one, they also prefer a fluffy editorial environment. They prefer not to ask people to buy their stuff in the middle of an article about famine or rape or, even, endemic corruption. They’d much rather be associated with editorial content about yachting, golf and cider recipes…

This prize has really shown up who the real “America haters” are…

Every sour rethug. Showing over and over their only agenda is hate…no ability to realize what it means for survival to negotiate, be inclusive and use diplomacy– that lives depend on it. Even their sorry ones.

Even Pat Buchanan dissed Steele for his stupid remarks and understands the PR value of the award.

So the Nobel committee makes a pre emptive choice. Rather brilliant.

Heard the chairman being grilled by some CNN c*nt on the website.
Desperate to get the chairman to confess out of the 5 voters it was not unanimous. The guy kept knocking him down. NO. It was unanimous.

He very patiently explained there was precident in the the award to the person who years before the Berlin Wall fell had been working towards that end.

They wanted to recognize that Obama was laying the groundwork for peace through his diplomatic attitude.

Something certainly not seen by a US president for sometime.

I think it was a shrewd choice. The sad thing is–it means nothing in real world terms.

It just gives the talking assholes like Woody something to expel more mind farts over.

I do like what they have done by choosing Obama: I think in no small measure there was an understanding that this would really stick it up the ass of the racists in the US.

Symbolically/psychologically the choice has an important effect within the US– which of course falls out on the rest of the world.

I think the choice of the committee was also considering that the world is on the brink; the US in large part responsible for about pushing it over and now there is a US leader who at least on the surface has demonstrated his intentions are to try and use diplomacy.

But…this all much ado about nothing because it means no more than a gold star the teacher gives a 5 year old.

Ok. Sit back and watch Woody wank.

You are forgetting there are no printing or distribution costs.
And there would still be advertizing revenues. A lot of businesses would want to have a targeted audience. Those vendors who want to appeal to what would be a liberal, educated, mostly gainfully employed readership would do well to advertize.

And this is not meant to be something that trys to include fluff columns. The point is to focus it on hard news. I wouldnt even waste space with commentary.

I would let whatever commentary so called pro or not be included in the comments.

‘…The whole business is weird. But there is one lovely, delicious, delectable thing about it: it will drive the American right wing up the wall.

I normally can’t stand to hear Rush Limbaugh’s voice, but I just might listen today. I might flip on Fox for a bit. I’ll make sure at some point this afternoon to Google “Orly Taitz and Obama Nobel” to imbibe the analysis on offer from the queen of the birthers. I’ll definitely check in on the rightwing websites, and I urge you to do the same if you have the time. It’s going to be an extremely entertaining day.’

The rates newspapers charge are heavily padded by advertising.

Check out what, for example, financial newsletters that don’t have advertising, charge. That’s the kind of money it takes to pay the wages necessary to support the hard work of real journalism.

A major metro daily would have to charge many times a month to survive without advertising. Just do the math.

Unless and until readers wake up to the fact that real journalism is very expensive to produce, there will be no progress toward realizing a model to replace the advertising driven one that’s now in the midst of slow-motion collapse….

No fluff on this site.

Whats the diff between that at paying for a paper.

This would be for hard news. International and national primarily. I think there shoudl be a separate source for local.

But I still think a real hold in the hand newspaper is what is needed. And the ritual of reading it important. I hate this computer thing.

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I really don’t know anything about Warren Hellman, so I did a search and immediately saw this article: HILLBILLY MILLIONAIRE [BILLIONAIRE]

Here are two related links to his investment in the new paper: Hellman and partners to launch Bay Area newsroom and an interesting interactive chart of the Hellman connections in Can Warren Hellman save the San Francisco Chronicle?.

While his immediate focus is on his hometown, where the Hearst Co.-owned San Francisco Chronicle has been hemorrhaging staff and money, Hellman has his eye on a model that might be adopted across the country where intense financial pressures are driving many papers into bankruptcy.

“If we can conceptualize a model and bring it to life here, the world will take notice,” he said. “It is that simple.”

It would accountable for what is written.. that would be the kicker. the attraction. they could be sued like a newspaper. In fact a challenge should be on the masthead so to speak.

all very 1940′s movie time. wouldnt it be cool though?

So the Nobel committee makes a pre emptive choice. Rather brilliant.

Heard the chairman being grilled by some CNN c*nt on the website.
Desperate to get the chairman to confess out of the 5 voters it was not unanimous. The guy kept knocking him down. NO. It was unanimous.

He very patiently explained there was precident in the the award to the person who years before the Berlin Wall fell had been working towards that end.

They wanted to recognize that Obama was laying the groundwork for peace through his diplomatic attitude.

Something certainly not seen by a US president for sometime.

I think it was a shrewd choice. The sad thing is–it means nothing in real world terms.

It just gives the talking assholes like Woody something to expel more mind farts over.

I do like what they have done by choosing Obama: I think in no small measure there was an understanding that this would really stick it up the ass of the racists in the US.

Symbolically/psychologically the choice has an important effect within the US– which of course falls out on the rest of the world.

I think the choice of the committee was also considering that the world is on the brink; the US in large part responsible for about pushing it over and now there is a US leader who at least on the surface has demonstrated his intentions are to try and use diplomacy.

But…this all much ado about nothing because it means no more than a gold star the teacher gives a 5 year old.

Ok. Sit back and watch Woody wank.