To those of you who have inquired… I am still here. Just swamped with a summer project and some other stuff. Health is fine. Spirits are high. Life is good. Will be back blogging sometime in a week or two. Thanks to all who have asked.
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True dat. Of all the posts-the possibilities are endless-to temporarily leave us with, we get “Cock Shot”. Damn you, you owe us for that Marc. On a serious tip I hope that life’s well. Fishing season, n’est pas?
since the big topic is the so called debt crisis and soc sec and medicare being used as bargaining chips and Obama revealing himself to be ‘right from Atilla the Hun” as Pablo remarked…we could have a yammer about the big fire sale…
first off: how many already getting Soc Sec and Medicare and how many within say 5 years of it?
Just heard Bernie Sanders on the floor of the Senate (via DN). ‘Congratulations to the ‘Gang of Six who along with the Democrats’ have eviscerated Social Security.’.
For liberals who follow the party cheerleaders on television instead of their own moral compass, deep cuts in Social Security and Medicare in order to fund Wall St banks and war is no big deal.
These armchair activists will be getting off their hind legs in order to man the phone banks at the Obama HQ. The New Deal could never be dismantled by the falange, represented by those views espoused here by Roper… instead, it takes the active connivance of the new right wing… and whose only distinction is that they are not falangist and thus are not todays worst person in the worrrrld.
That will come when they cast their vote to re-elect.
“how many already getting Soc Sec and Medicare and how many within say 5 years of it?”
Not just that but the gang of six what to end the mortgage interest deduction on the Middle and Upper-Middle Class. Not only is it economic stupidity but political suicide. So second off- who has a mortgage and writes off the interest?
Cenk Ugyur Leaves MSNBC for refusing to “Tone it Down”
“I was partial to Cenk not just because he is a Turk but because he was one of the sharpest critics of the DP on MSNBC despite being–in the final analysis–just another DP spokesperson.
For the last week or so, Al Sharpton has been hosting his 6pm show. At first I thought Cenk was on vacation but it turns out that he was too critical of Obama and the other rightwing assholes in the DP. All he wanted was the DP to be more liberal. Fat chance of that..”
Cenk Ugyur explains in the facinating video link attached below that being critical of Obama has its limits:
Really glad you like it! I just couldn’t put it down, and may give it another read. There is something amazing about the repitition you get by the third book. I thought it wouldn’t work, but it makes the whole thing richer than I would have thought possible.
wow. the Cenk story nicely chill on a 90 degree day.
Thanks. The real “chill” in Cenk’s story is that the pressure applied to him by execs to tone down the criticism of Obama came from Washington!
There’s the smoking gun.
At the end of the Cenk clip there is a Part II and then a Part III.
The Democratic Party retains editorial control of the content presented as journalism on MSNBC.
Cenk Ugyur expand his criticism on DN this morning:
CENK UYGUR: Well, there’s no question that I was by far the least supportive of the Obama administration. I saw your last segment, and I couldn’t agree more with your guest. I think President Obama is clearly, you know, a Republican. I know, because in the 1990s I was a Republican, and he’s way to the right of me, and I’ve hardly changed any positions. The political spectrum has shifted massively to the right in this country, and nobody wants to talk about it.
And the Obama, you know, supporters, I don’t know what they want the hosts to do. So, we fought so hard to make sure that Bush didn’t cut Social Security. So are we supposed to cheer when Obama cuts Social Security? We fought so hard to make sure that Bush didn’t give more tax cuts to the rich. Are we supposed to cheer when Obama gives more tax cuts to the rich? And the list goes on and on.
Now, it’s very important for me to make this distinction, because I really believe it. The hosts are totally different than the management. And it is an interesting way that you acquire power within these corporate organizations, right?
whats interesting is Olbermann always took shots but then when Obama went off the reservation they kicked Olbermann off for calling him out on it.
and its funny cause its not about ratings or corporate advertisers…its that they dont want a rabble rouser on the left.
as i havent watched tv in a few months i just wonder what Ms Maddow is doing and why hasnt she stalked off in support of Olbermann who was her mentor. i wonder if she ‘toned’ it down or just hasnt done stories on Obama and the blood letting by the Dems.
my theory is anyone to the left of mickey mouse doesnt watch tv news except to get overview of whats cooking but goes to internet and the various other sources. the rest just want scraps to gnaw on, slaver and watch the hangings. its atavistic.
Senator Obama vs. President Obama:
Social Security Edition
September 6, 2008, Speech to the AARP Convention, C-SPAN
“[John McCain's] campaign has…suggest[ed] that the best answer to the growing pressures on Social Security might be to cut cost-of-living adjustments or raise the retirement age. I will not do either.”
October 30, 2007, Democratic Debate and Drexel University [PDF]
“Social Security is not in crisis; it is a fundamentally sound system… The best idea is to lift the cap on the payroll tax, potentially exempting middle-class folks, but making sure that the wealthy are paying more of their fair share, a little bit more.”
Washington D.C. (July 22, 2011) – Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who has consistently led the effort to protect Social Security, today called upon President Obama to stand behind his oft-repeated campaign promises to protect Social Security, a vital program that is 100% fully funded until 2036.
“I took the stage with President Obama during the campaign debates, and he repeatedly promised to protect Social Security benefits for retirees. President Obama has now gone back on campaign promises that he repeated over and over and over again.
“Why has President Obama brought Social Security into deficit debate? Social Security has nothing to do with the deficit and is not a government piggy bank. Working people have paid into the program their entire lives. The program remains strong and should not be placed on the chopping block for political purposes. After two years without a cost of living increase, Congress and the President should be working to protect and strengthen Social Security, not weaken it.
“Even at this late date, I urge President Obama not to sell out seniors. Remove Social Security from the discussion of the deficit. Bring forth a stand-alone resolution that would lift the caps on Social Security which would keep the program solvent for 75 years,” said Kucinich.
September 6, 2007, Democratic Debate at Dartmouth College
Obama: I think that lifting the cap is probably going to be the best option. … My personal view is that lifting the cap is much preferable to the other options that are available.
September 21, 2007, Op-ed in Quad City Times, Iowa
“I do not want to cut benefits or raise the retirement age. I believe there are a number of ways we can make Social Security solvent that do not involve placing these added burdens on our seniors.”
November 11, 2007, Meet the Press Interview
“I said I will convene a meeting as president where we discuss all of the options that are available. I believe that cutting benefits is not the right answer; and that raising the retirement age is not the best option, particularly when we’ve got people who are still in manufacturing. … I think that the best way to approach this is to adjust the cap on the payroll tax so that people like myself are paying a little bit more and the people who are in need are protected. That is the option that I will be pushing forward.”
April 6, 2008, Philadelphia Democratic Primary Debate
“What I have proposed is that we raise the cap on the payroll tax, because right now millionaires and billionaires don’t have to pay beyond $97,000 a year. Now most firefighters & teachers, they’re not making over $100,000 a year. In fact, only 6% of the population does.”
October 16, 2008, Obama Campaign Video
“The best way forward is to first look to adjust the cap on the payroll tax… What it does allow us to do is to extend the life of Social Security without cutting benefits or raising the retirement age.”
Aren’t we due another lecture on how we should shut up while the master plays his 10 dimensional chess match? How his base needs to be scolded for abandoning him while he shreds the social safety net?
I know I would be first to admit I was wrong if Obama turned out to be anything other than a Republican in progressive clothing, a liar and sellout going against everything he campaigned for.
So where’s the admissions from the other side? Are you preparing yet another defense for Obama offering up Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid to the Republicans, so the Baggers can spit in his face once again until he drops to his knees and begs their forgiveness?
His only option at this point is to stand strong and claim the 14th Amendment. I’m betting he’d rather watch the nation fall into the abyss. Anyone want to bet against me?
And this from Huffington Post: The president appeared genuinely flummoxed at the talks falling apart, saying there “doesn’t seem to be a capacity for [Republicans] to say yes.” He said he couldn’t believe Congress would “end up being that irresponsible” as to impose a “self-inflicted wound on the economy at a time when things are so difficult.”
I’m sorry, but Obama is a fucking idiot. Goes to show you that a million degrees from Harvard isn’t worth the half of one cent if you don’t have eyes to see and a gram of common sense.
Cenk tells us. “The political spectrum has shifted massively to the right in this country, and nobody wants to talk about it.”
Demand nothing and get it.
Liberal activism has been reduced to recounting tv anecdotes on blogs about Republicans caught picking their noses.
The same icy glazed eyed stare of the all-night addict of the one-armed bandit who mindlessly pulls the lever in a slow repetitive motion is the sonnambulant liberal in the voting booth… same old tired high-fivin’ hacks; easy tools, deferential, glad to be of use.
i still can’t believe Obama keeps playing the compromise card and now he can’t believe the rethugs would be so intractable. does he really think anyone believes him when he has been saying that shit since day one. i think this was the alibi for his gambit to be president and do his masters’ bidding.
i’ll just keep saying how selfish and inflexible they are while i keep doing my charlie brown imitation of lucy pulling the foot ball away just as i go to kick it.
any alternative serious candidates being lined up by the progressive fringe? i can’t believe people are going to rollover and think Obama is better than Bachmann or Romney or some other equally retarded whack job…
maybe better to just give over to a real nut job, hit bottom instead of this agony of being beaten to death by people calling themselves Democrats.
this is going to be interesting because Obama has totally shown he isnt worth a second term but ya think anyone would think to break out and do something different?
ya know…look at the problem from another angle maybe?
Good to hear from you. C’mon back. The stalwarts are off sulking, somewhere.
Cenk’s politics are of little concern to me. The fact that ‘Washington” told MSNBC execs to reign in the criticism of Obama puts the network in the same league as Fox. Even then, I have no problem. Let Rachel at al come on and say that Obama is their man because the party runs the show… and btw it is a “show” .
So take a look at the substance of what Cenk said on the video clip:
Obama is a Republican… and the liberals who continue to support his policies are not doing so because of issues purported to be of progressive concern. Cenk isn’t supposed to ask a Howard Dean or an Ed Rendell why the party takes care of Wall St, period… which is why he’s gone.
Kill the chicken to scare the monkey… Ed, Lawrence, and Rachel, get the message. As long as they play “Perfidia” with repect to Republicans, all is copesthetic… Suggest the Dems have moved to the right of a Richad Nixon and are eager to “reform” social security or medicare while running five wars and bailing out the banks and you get called in like Cenk.
It’s gonna be a tougher sell this time. Obama will be re-elected.
No one supporting him can call themselves progressive or being of the left without inserting “former” as a qualifier. Since he is a shoo-in… no need for any progressive to support him.. the banks have already coughed up $1B. That alone will do it.
Progressive Democrats of America in coalition with Bank of America to re-elect Obama is an insult to the bank.