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	<title>Comments on: Sundays With Hugo -- Hundreds and Hundreds of Them</title>
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		<title>By: part tester</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/sundays-with-hugo-hundreds-and-hundreds-of-them/#comment-527657</link>
		<dc:creator>part tester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;part tester...&lt;/strong&gt;

Hi. Very nice blog. I\'ve been reading your other entries all day long..lol....</description>
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<p>Hi. Very nice blog. I\&#8217;ve been reading your other entries all day long..lol&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: troutsky</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/sundays-with-hugo-hundreds-and-hundreds-of-them/#comment-223723</link>
		<dc:creator>troutsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion degenerated before I was able to interject but as a socialist who was part of a ten day human rights delegation last spring (credentials out of the way) my opinion is that the difference between Chavez and Peron (or more generally, any "caudillo" model) is that Chavez has a philosophical underpinning (endogenous development, a heartfelt rejection of neoliberalism) and has supported both a constitution which distributes rather than consolidates power and institutions and structures which implement these goals. (community councils, worker controlled factorys, cooperatives, collectives etc) Not something someone with dictatorial ambitions would encourage. 

Latin America has contradictions difficult for the intellectual left to reconcile, its Christian faith, its patriarchical traditions, its hidden racism, its militaristic fetishism for starters. But given the reality on the ground in this moment in history, it is remarkable and fascinating to observe the adroit balancing act this charismatic leader has performed in comparison to other experiments in broad social change. (Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador)  Be critical, of course, but do not let cynicism blind you to the possibility that this could be a deepening , popular movement unlike anything we have seen or attempted to analyze. Marc's essay made it's way to plenty of reactionary sites where it's snarky tone is being emulated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion degenerated before I was able to interject but as a socialist who was part of a ten day human rights delegation last spring (credentials out of the way) my opinion is that the difference between Chavez and Peron (or more generally, any &#8220;caudillo&#8221; model) is that Chavez has a philosophical underpinning (endogenous development, a heartfelt rejection of neoliberalism) and has supported both a constitution which distributes rather than consolidates power and institutions and structures which implement these goals. (community councils, worker controlled factorys, cooperatives, collectives etc) Not something someone with dictatorial ambitions would encourage. </p>
<p>Latin America has contradictions difficult for the intellectual left to reconcile, its Christian faith, its patriarchical traditions, its hidden racism, its militaristic fetishism for starters. But given the reality on the ground in this moment in history, it is remarkable and fascinating to observe the adroit balancing act this charismatic leader has performed in comparison to other experiments in broad social change. (Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador)  Be critical, of course, but do not let cynicism blind you to the possibility that this could be a deepening , popular movement unlike anything we have seen or attempted to analyze. Marc&#8217;s essay made it&#8217;s way to plenty of reactionary sites where it&#8217;s snarky tone is being emulated.</p>
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		<title>By: The_DC_Sniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_DC_Sniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CommandanteGringo: "And so itâ€™s obvious whoâ€™s yanking your chain, puppet. Imperial stooge. Hack."

Right on.  It bears pointing out what the sheep miss and that is that open civic society is nothing more than a tool of the counter-revolutionaries.  What the revolution really needs is a dictatorship of the proletariat (or, rather, the vanguard ruling in our stead because the party knows best)... but maybe if we can silence the opposition we can get the masses to vote as we know they should and then we get to keep democracy after all.  Yes.  Yes, this is truly a masterstroke.  Our glorious revolution is lucky to be lead by such men as Comrade Chavez.  Viva Chavez!  Up with the revolution! :raisedfist:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CommandanteGringo: &#8220;And so itâ€™s obvious whoâ€™s yanking your chain, puppet. Imperial stooge. Hack.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right on.  It bears pointing out what the sheep miss and that is that open civic society is nothing more than a tool of the counter-revolutionaries.  What the revolution really needs is a dictatorship of the proletariat (or, rather, the vanguard ruling in our stead because the party knows best)&#8230; but maybe if we can silence the opposition we can get the masses to vote as we know they should and then we get to keep democracy after all.  Yes.  Yes, this is truly a masterstroke.  Our glorious revolution is lucky to be lead by such men as Comrade Chavez.  Viva Chavez!  Up with the revolution! :raisedfist:</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/sundays-with-hugo-hundreds-and-hundreds-of-them/#comment-221839</link>
		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think Saskabush probably beats Cuba out for education - believe it or not it is the most left-wing part of country.  Living in a Salvaodrean/Mexican neighbourhood, the food I eat is pretty good.  Health care in Canada, is in theory great, but in practice, very very bad, child care was good but the Tories cut it.  

But So Cal weather?  I like my four seasons, and not having to expend energy on AC all year round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think Saskabush probably beats Cuba out for education - believe it or not it is the most left-wing part of country.  Living in a Salvaodrean/Mexican neighbourhood, the food I eat is pretty good.  Health care in Canada, is in theory great, but in practice, very very bad, child care was good but the Tories cut it.  </p>
<p>But So Cal weather?  I like my four seasons, and not having to expend energy on AC all year round.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 08:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Querido Comandante Gringo: Petit-bourgeois? That's all I rate? Anyone who knows me can testify that my aspirations are purely haute-bourgeois!

JCummings:  Have you ever noticed the recurring pattern of your argumentation? Your primary and favorite device is one of comparison. Better to be Cuban than Haitian. Chavez is better than Bush. Lukashenko is bad but Olmert is worse. How totally irrelevant. People live where they live. They dont live inside mathematical formulas.

I wonder how you make it through the day there in oppressive Canada? The weather is much better here in So Cal, the food is much better in Mexico, unemployment insurance and health care are better in Sweden, child care in Denmark is far superpior than in Canuckland, Venezuela has a much more progressive government, and the Cuban educational systems beats the hell out of Saskatchewan. It must be pure, infernal oppression for you up there on the fringe of the NATO empire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Querido Comandante Gringo: Petit-bourgeois? That&#8217;s all I rate? Anyone who knows me can testify that my aspirations are purely haute-bourgeois!</p>
<p>JCummings:  Have you ever noticed the recurring pattern of your argumentation? Your primary and favorite device is one of comparison. Better to be Cuban than Haitian. Chavez is better than Bush. Lukashenko is bad but Olmert is worse. How totally irrelevant. People live where they live. They dont live inside mathematical formulas.</p>
<p>I wonder how you make it through the day there in oppressive Canada? The weather is much better here in So Cal, the food is much better in Mexico, unemployment insurance and health care are better in Sweden, child care in Denmark is far superpior than in Canuckland, Venezuela has a much more progressive government, and the Cuban educational systems beats the hell out of Saskatchewan. It must be pure, infernal oppression for you up there on the fringe of the NATO empire.</p>
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		<title>By: ComandanteGringo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ComandanteGringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 08:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"hardly the most re-assuring thought for those who value open, civic society."

And so it's obvious who's yanking your chain, puppet.
Imperial stooge. Hack.

This whole piece is wretched, myopic middle-class tripe from top to bottom. Even when you make a point you're wrong in your self-centered petit-bourgeois conclusions.

So I know it's too much to demand that you take off those coke-bottle-bottomed, yellow-tinted goggles...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;hardly the most re-assuring thought for those who value open, civic society.&#8221;</p>
<p>And so it&#8217;s obvious who&#8217;s yanking your chain, puppet.<br />
Imperial stooge. Hack.</p>
<p>This whole piece is wretched, myopic middle-class tripe from top to bottom. Even when you make a point you&#8217;re wrong in your self-centered petit-bourgeois conclusions.</p>
<p>So I know it&#8217;s too much to demand that you take off those coke-bottle-bottomed, yellow-tinted goggles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/sundays-with-hugo-hundreds-and-hundreds-of-them/#comment-221133</link>
		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which one?  I'm not being facetious.

Also - the concept of "right" and "wrong" and "Rights" and "Wrongs" and all such dichotomizing, decontextualizing obscurantism do not do justice to such an issue.

I assume there's no argument over whether Lukashenko has killed thousands of people his country occupies over the last six years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which one?  I&#8217;m not being facetious.</p>
<p>Also - the concept of &#8220;right&#8221; and &#8220;wrong&#8221; and &#8220;Rights&#8221; and &#8220;Wrongs&#8221; and all such dichotomizing, decontextualizing obscurantism do not do justice to such an issue.</p>
<p>I assume there&#8217;s no argument over whether Lukashenko has killed thousands of people his country occupies over the last six years.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/sundays-with-hugo-hundreds-and-hundreds-of-them/#comment-221104</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Even if Olmert has the consent of a plurality of Jewish Israelis, his actions are far beyond anything that Lukashenko - no doubt a serious Stalinist thug- has ever done.&lt;/i&gt;

No doubt you know the old saying about opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Even if Olmert has the consent of a plurality of Jewish Israelis, his actions are far beyond anything that Lukashenko - no doubt a serious Stalinist thug- has ever done.</i></p>
<p>No doubt you know the old saying about opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 03:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duhh,

This is for both you and cummings: two worngs don't make a right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duhh,</p>
<p>This is for both you and cummings: two worngs don&#8217;t make a right.</p>
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		<title>By: duhh</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/sundays-with-hugo-hundreds-and-hundreds-of-them/#comment-220958</link>
		<dc:creator>duhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 02:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Itâ€™s exactly like the argument the pro-war right makes when one criticizes the Bush administration for human rights abuses during the Iraq debacle and their response is what about what Saddam did?'

Right, cuz a night's High School-style hazing equals decades of slaughter and genocide.

And in the case of Israel, the victim who successfully fights back against ten bullies and teaches them a lesson becomes the bully, right?

Yeah I'm starting to get it, but I'll just have to kill a few more brain cells before the new logic works for me. Got any more of that Koolaid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Itâ€™s exactly like the argument the pro-war right makes when one criticizes the Bush administration for human rights abuses during the Iraq debacle and their response is what about what Saddam did?&#8217;</p>
<p>Right, cuz a night&#8217;s High School-style hazing equals decades of slaughter and genocide.</p>
<p>And in the case of Israel, the victim who successfully fights back against ten bullies and teaches them a lesson becomes the bully, right?</p>
<p>Yeah I&#8217;m starting to get it, but I&#8217;ll just have to kill a few more brain cells before the new logic works for me. Got any more of that Koolaid?</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/sundays-with-hugo-hundreds-and-hundreds-of-them/#comment-220746</link>
		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As tempting as it is to not drag this one out, I'd hardly call Olmert democratically elected.  A mature democracy - even the US in theory - gives all their citizens equal access, not just to the vote (Palestinians are able to vote, often for either Palestinian, Communist or mixed-between-the-two parties) - but to the fruit of democratic citizenship.  Not to mention the system of apartheid in the West Bank and Gaza.

Even if Olmert has the consent of a plurality of Jewish Israelis, his actions are far beyond anything that Lukashenko - no doubt a serious Stalinist thug- has ever done.  This is not to say that Jewish Israelis don't have more freedom have more freedoms (though not the freedom to non-religous weddings - and not the freedom to have any other denomination of Judaism besides Orthodox be entitled to being considered "Jewish") - than Belarussians.  That being said, Lukashenko is not occupying and destroying a society, uprooting people and killing people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As tempting as it is to not drag this one out, I&#8217;d hardly call Olmert democratically elected.  A mature democracy - even the US in theory - gives all their citizens equal access, not just to the vote (Palestinians are able to vote, often for either Palestinian, Communist or mixed-between-the-two parties) - but to the fruit of democratic citizenship.  Not to mention the system of apartheid in the West Bank and Gaza.</p>
<p>Even if Olmert has the consent of a plurality of Jewish Israelis, his actions are far beyond anything that Lukashenko - no doubt a serious Stalinist thug- has ever done.  This is not to say that Jewish Israelis don&#8217;t have more freedom have more freedoms (though not the freedom to non-religous weddings - and not the freedom to have any other denomination of Judaism besides Orthodox be entitled to being considered &#8220;Jewish&#8221;) - than Belarussians.  That being said, Lukashenko is not occupying and destroying a society, uprooting people and killing people.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olmert can be voted out. Lukashenk can't.

As per the rest of your comment, [BIG YAWN]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olmert can be voted out. Lukashenk can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>As per the rest of your comment, [BIG YAWN]</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/sundays-with-hugo-hundreds-and-hundreds-of-them/#comment-219672</link>
		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 05:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see by your blog that you are a Lula admirer, yet nothing beyond minor huffiness over his support of his comrade Hugo!!!  The hypocrisy!! My lord</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see by your blog that you are a Lula admirer, yet nothing beyond minor huffiness over his support of his comrade Hugo!!!  The hypocrisy!! My lord</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 04:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olmert is far worse than Lukashenko.  I have nothing else to explain.  We differ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olmert is far worse than Lukashenko.  I have nothing else to explain.  We differ.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 04:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me make it simple for you: you're the Chavista, I'm not, nor am I a Chiracista, Blairista, Olmertista, Musharaffista, member of Opus Dei, P2, the CIA nor am I a terrorist.

If you choose to align yourself with Chavez, fine. You have to reconcile with some intellectual consistency how you can praise him for his goals despite his open and willing association with some pretty horrific characters.

Throwing the ball in my court does not abjure you of that responsibility. Disabuse yourself of that notion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me make it simple for you: you&#8217;re the Chavista, I&#8217;m not, nor am I a Chiracista, Blairista, Olmertista, Musharaffista, member of Opus Dei, P2, the CIA nor am I a terrorist.</p>
<p>If you choose to align yourself with Chavez, fine. You have to reconcile with some intellectual consistency how you can praise him for his goals despite his open and willing association with some pretty horrific characters.</p>
<p>Throwing the ball in my court does not abjure you of that responsibility. Disabuse yourself of that notion.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're dredging up strawman arguments. To liken Olmert with the likes of Lukashenko is silly.

Your comment rises to the intellectual level of a wingnut I once worked with. When he put a picture of himself shaking hands with G. Gordon Liddy, he made a point of showing it to me. When I asked him why he wanted a picture of himself with a convicted felon, his response was, "Nelson Mandela's a convicted felon, too!"

It's exactly like the argument the pro-war right makes when one criticizes the Bush administration for human rights abuses during the Iraq debacle and their response is what about what Saddam did?

Love the company &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt; keep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re dredging up strawman arguments. To liken Olmert with the likes of Lukashenko is silly.</p>
<p>Your comment rises to the intellectual level of a wingnut I once worked with. When he put a picture of himself shaking hands with G. Gordon Liddy, he made a point of showing it to me. When I asked him why he wanted a picture of himself with a convicted felon, his response was, &#8220;Nelson Mandela&#8217;s a convicted felon, too!&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s exactly like the argument the pro-war right makes when one criticizes the Bush administration for human rights abuses during the Iraq debacle and their response is what about what Saddam did?</p>
<p>Love the company <b>you</b> keep.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consistency is not how we should look at on one hand, the American Empire, and on the other, a country that - like just about every nation state on the planet - has a few repressive allies.  I don't support it, but given the conjuncture of forces on the planet right now, it is understandable.  

In the name of consistency, why aren't there any photos of the Venezuelan opposition with Opus Dei, P2, the CIA and terorrists?  Only a knave would fidn those thugs preferable to Chavez.

TI wonder if you, in the name of consistency, circulate photos of every other world leader with their unsavory allies.... Do you have one for Chirac?  Do you regularly circulate photos of Blair and Olmert?  Musharaff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consistency is not how we should look at on one hand, the American Empire, and on the other, a country that - like just about every nation state on the planet - has a few repressive allies.  I don&#8217;t support it, but given the conjuncture of forces on the planet right now, it is understandable.  </p>
<p>In the name of consistency, why aren&#8217;t there any photos of the Venezuelan opposition with Opus Dei, P2, the CIA and terorrists?  Only a knave would fidn those thugs preferable to Chavez.</p>
<p>TI wonder if you, in the name of consistency, circulate photos of every other world leader with their unsavory allies&#8230;. Do you have one for Chirac?  Do you regularly circulate photos of Blair and Olmert?  Musharaff?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poppycock. The only agenda it's there to serve is one of consistency. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poppycock. The only agenda it&#8217;s there to serve is one of consistency. What&#8217;s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't support it.  One can support the overall politics of a country and its leadership (overwhelmingly re-elected it seems) without agreeing with some of the choices that country makes.  I made that clear.

This guilt by association is such nonsense and clearly there to serve an agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t support it.  One can support the overall politics of a country and its leadership (overwhelmingly re-elected it seems) without agreeing with some of the choices that country makes.  I made that clear.</p>
<p>This guilt by association is such nonsense and clearly there to serve an agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Virgil Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virgil Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the developments that has to be exploited in the region is a Pan-Americas alliance. If one checks carefully you can see a full list of resources that can be utilized to stabalize economic growth and security among those nations.  The growth of cooperatives has to be linked to not only internal development, but must become export minded so that the ratio of import to export can find a natural balance.  This among many other issues should be on the docket, otherwise we face the spectre of a big fall when oil prices tumble as Randy Paul has stated.

Just because one does not want to fall into the trap of outside investment does not mean that you contain yourself.  It is also in the interest of Ven. to form an alliance with unaligned nations, to move above the UN influence.  Instead of endearing yourself by being magnaminous, put some give and take into a growing profitable circle of influence. 

To tame the capitalistic elite core of business interest you go toe to toe with them in the world market,  you do not merely cover your own rear so you are not embrassed by some sort of future embargo - only real interest in real world markets can produce real wealth for a growing enfranchised population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the developments that has to be exploited in the region is a Pan-Americas alliance. If one checks carefully you can see a full list of resources that can be utilized to stabalize economic growth and security among those nations.  The growth of cooperatives has to be linked to not only internal development, but must become export minded so that the ratio of import to export can find a natural balance.  This among many other issues should be on the docket, otherwise we face the spectre of a big fall when oil prices tumble as Randy Paul has stated.</p>
<p>Just because one does not want to fall into the trap of outside investment does not mean that you contain yourself.  It is also in the interest of Ven. to form an alliance with unaligned nations, to move above the UN influence.  Instead of endearing yourself by being magnaminous, put some give and take into a growing profitable circle of influence. </p>
<p>To tame the capitalistic elite core of business interest you go toe to toe with them in the world market,  you do not merely cover your own rear so you are not embrassed by some sort of future embargo - only real interest in real world markets can produce real wealth for a growing enfranchised population.</p>
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