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		<title>By: Traino</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-611771</link>
		<dc:creator>Traino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Don?t Usually Reply to Posts But I Will in this Case! Awesome, What a Great Site and Informative Post, I Always Wanted to Write in My Site Something Like That. Thank You! 

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<p>P.S: Please Take a Minute to Visit My Stock Market Website as Well: <a href="http://snurl.com/stockassault" rel="nofollow">http://snurl.com/stockassault</a><br />
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		<title>By: Political Jib.com &#187; Jeff Norman: Obama&#8217;s Master Plan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Political Jib.com &#187; Jeff Norman: Obama&#8217;s Master Plan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 23:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his blog, Marc Cooper shares the thoughts of two friends who believe Obama &#8220;is playing this like a virtuoso, that he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607981</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;faulty ideology of purely free unregulated capitalism craziness.&quot;

  Socialistic undertones, Jim. Socialistic undertones.
  Welcome to the real world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;faulty ideology of purely free unregulated capitalism craziness.&#8221;</p>
<p>  Socialistic undertones, Jim. Socialistic undertones.<br />
  Welcome to the real world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607979</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And are you really so stupid you crave the leadership of the GOP right now ???&quot;

OK. I see it&#039;s time to beat up on the greedy capitalists. 

First reg, with my headline &quot;Socialism moves on as planned&quot;, it was unintentionally misleading. I meant it to refer to President Obama&#039;s plan&#039;s for Chrysler, and, likely to follow soon, GM plan for survival. Not some grand plan for Socialism to replace Capitalism.  

He, and we, were thrust into very difficult circumstances by out-of-control (regulation) capitalism, not socialism. But I do believe his approach to solving these car company troubles, already there before the economic disaster btw, has socialistic undertones. The bedrock of a free and dynamic economy is law enforcement of contracts between a lender(without lenders we have no capital) and a borrower(without borrowers we have no homeowners or jobs). Preferred lenders are lenders, typically 401k or retirement funds of other companies employees, that have been invested in secured bonds at much lower interest rate and on the laws contract promise if a company fails, they to be the &#039;first&#039; to be paid, not the failing company&#039;s employees for godsake.

I know it was the extremism of the Bush, etc, pro-capitals regimes that handed us this financial disaster, due to their equally faulty ideology of purely free unregulated capitalism craziness. And they got what was coming to them, loss of power. But it is not helping our country, and I reserve the right to criticize what needs critiqued, to use capitalism craziness as an opportunity to increase the damage with some socialism craziness. 

This is not the time to hand out money we do not have for more non-job-creating social freebies, further indebting and weaking our ability to restore lenders/investors confidence to risk money for future business/jobs growth. This is not the time to be showing governments willingness to break basic contract law, scaring the hell out of lenders/ investors willingness to invest in our home loans and job creating businesses needed for recovery of this serious economic slump.

My position is we must demoralize with harsh criticism extremists on both sides of the political spectrum in order to restore and maintain sanity for the large majority in the middle. I want President Obama to be holding hearings on why and how the f--king crooks on Wall Street were able to pull off the biggest bank heists in history. I want to see some of these bastards sweating before congressional hearings, trying to get to the bottom of this disaster, so we can pass laws to stop it in the future. I want them investigate by the DOJ and I want to see many of them doing the penguin walk in full chains before Judges. This is were I want President Obama&#039;s DOJ Lawyers spending their time for Christsake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And are you really so stupid you crave the leadership of the GOP right now ???&#8221;</p>
<p>OK. I see it&#8217;s time to beat up on the greedy capitalists. </p>
<p>First reg, with my headline &#8220;Socialism moves on as planned&#8221;, it was unintentionally misleading. I meant it to refer to President Obama&#8217;s plan&#8217;s for Chrysler, and, likely to follow soon, GM plan for survival. Not some grand plan for Socialism to replace Capitalism.  </p>
<p>He, and we, were thrust into very difficult circumstances by out-of-control (regulation) capitalism, not socialism. But I do believe his approach to solving these car company troubles, already there before the economic disaster btw, has socialistic undertones. The bedrock of a free and dynamic economy is law enforcement of contracts between a lender(without lenders we have no capital) and a borrower(without borrowers we have no homeowners or jobs). Preferred lenders are lenders, typically 401k or retirement funds of other companies employees, that have been invested in secured bonds at much lower interest rate and on the laws contract promise if a company fails, they to be the &#8216;first&#8217; to be paid, not the failing company&#8217;s employees for godsake.</p>
<p>I know it was the extremism of the Bush, etc, pro-capitals regimes that handed us this financial disaster, due to their equally faulty ideology of purely free unregulated capitalism craziness. And they got what was coming to them, loss of power. But it is not helping our country, and I reserve the right to criticize what needs critiqued, to use capitalism craziness as an opportunity to increase the damage with some socialism craziness. </p>
<p>This is not the time to hand out money we do not have for more non-job-creating social freebies, further indebting and weaking our ability to restore lenders/investors confidence to risk money for future business/jobs growth. This is not the time to be showing governments willingness to break basic contract law, scaring the hell out of lenders/ investors willingness to invest in our home loans and job creating businesses needed for recovery of this serious economic slump.</p>
<p>My position is we must demoralize with harsh criticism extremists on both sides of the political spectrum in order to restore and maintain sanity for the large majority in the middle. I want President Obama to be holding hearings on why and how the f&#8211;king crooks on Wall Street were able to pull off the biggest bank heists in history. I want to see some of these bastards sweating before congressional hearings, trying to get to the bottom of this disaster, so we can pass laws to stop it in the future. I want them investigate by the DOJ and I want to see many of them doing the penguin walk in full chains before Judges. This is were I want President Obama&#8217;s DOJ Lawyers spending their time for Christsake!</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607974</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a coincidence, Dan!  Just as I get mine together you guys decide to stomp on yours,  use it as toilet paper, and flush it away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a coincidence, Dan!  Just as I get mine together you guys decide to stomp on yours,  use it as toilet paper, and flush it away.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607970</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody, it&#039;s great to see that you found your copy of the constitution again!  I&#039;m surprised that you were able to tape it back together.  And just in time for a president you don&#039;t like.  What tremendous timing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody, it&#8217;s great to see that you found your copy of the constitution again!  I&#8217;m surprised that you were able to tape it back together.  And just in time for a president you don&#8217;t like.  What tremendous timing!</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607961</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is going to learn some of the things that FDR learned, mainly that you can&#039;t ignore the Constitution in furthering a radical, socialist agenda.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/04/senior-creditors-chrysler-deal-violates-5th-amendment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senior creditors: Chrysler deal violates 5th Amendment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Next, watch Obama try to pack the Supreme Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is going to learn some of the things that FDR learned, mainly that you can&#8217;t ignore the Constitution in furthering a radical, socialist agenda.</p>
<p><b><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/04/senior-creditors-chrysler-deal-violates-5th-amendment/" rel="nofollow">Senior creditors: Chrysler deal violates 5th Amendment</a></b></p>
<p>Next, watch Obama try to pack the Supreme Court.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607960</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve stayed out of this, but I&#039;ll chime in and state that I will NEVER do business with a financial institution taken over and run by the government or any manufacturer which was seized from secured creditors and just handed over to unions to run into the ground.  You socialists will just have to make some money on your own and support government companies, because conservatives and &quot;the rich&quot; sure won&#039;t.

- - -

Just for you, reg.

&lt;i&gt;The Latest Democrat Response to FOX News
Obama was tricked!!!!
He did not intend to bow to the Saudi king. Check the photo closely!&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/006706.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(LINK to photo)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve stayed out of this, but I&#8217;ll chime in and state that I will NEVER do business with a financial institution taken over and run by the government or any manufacturer which was seized from secured creditors and just handed over to unions to run into the ground.  You socialists will just have to make some money on your own and support government companies, because conservatives and &#8220;the rich&#8221; sure won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>- &#8211; -</p>
<p>Just for you, reg.</p>
<p><i>The Latest Democrat Response to FOX News<br />
Obama was tricked!!!!<br />
He did not intend to bow to the Saudi king. Check the photo closely!</i><br />
<b><a href="http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/006706.html" rel="nofollow">(LINK to photo)</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607959</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, fuck the bondholders. What &quot;working man&quot; would hold such a debased opinion ?  The UAW are much more crucial - AND VESTED by any rational standard - stakeholders than the guys who bought bonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, fuck the bondholders. What &#8220;working man&#8221; would hold such a debased opinion ?  The UAW are much more crucial &#8211; AND VESTED by any rational standard &#8211; stakeholders than the guys who bought bonds.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607958</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is an ideological belief that a centralized government knows what the people want, and if they don’t, by god it’s what’s good for them and they cannot be trusted to make important choices for themselves.&quot; 

 In fact the &quot;centralized government&quot; failed miserably to do the right thing when SUVs were exempted from CAFE standards. Democrats are complicit in this near-criminal end-run around environmental standards that were gained during the Carter Era along with Republicans.  The &quot;centralized government&quot; gave way to corporate AND self-interested, short-term union power when push came to shove. 

All I can say is that on most things JIMMY CARTER WAS RIGHT.  With a couple of terrible major exceptions - i.e.  giving the nod to Islamic extremists in Afhganistan, who were actually WORSE than the Russians (although nobody gives a shit, I was of the opinion at the time we were throwing in with the greater of two evils), and opening the doors to the era of de-regulation, which over the long run actually corrupted and weakened US business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is an ideological belief that a centralized government knows what the people want, and if they don’t, by god it’s what’s good for them and they cannot be trusted to make important choices for themselves.&#8221; </p>
<p> In fact the &#8220;centralized government&#8221; failed miserably to do the right thing when SUVs were exempted from CAFE standards. Democrats are complicit in this near-criminal end-run around environmental standards that were gained during the Carter Era along with Republicans.  The &#8220;centralized government&#8221; gave way to corporate AND self-interested, short-term union power when push came to shove. </p>
<p>All I can say is that on most things JIMMY CARTER WAS RIGHT.  With a couple of terrible major exceptions &#8211; i.e.  giving the nod to Islamic extremists in Afhganistan, who were actually WORSE than the Russians (although nobody gives a shit, I was of the opinion at the time we were throwing in with the greater of two evils), and opening the doors to the era of de-regulation, which over the long run actually corrupted and weakened US business.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...ah, that should read, &quot;car-maker&quot; ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;ah, that should read, &#8220;car-maker&#8221; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grocholski</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607956</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Grocholski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jim R
Have to second DanO&#039;s point on torture and the Bushies conduct of the war.  They blew it.  

On the car-marker front:  it wasn&#039;t ideology or the UAW that was insisting Chrysler build only big gas guzzlers.  Chrysler management was following the short-term profits on trucks and mini vans. Based on the hope of cheap gas forever.  Just like GM.  (And btw, it wasn&#039;t the UAW that scrapped GM&#039;s EV1 10 years ago - think how much further along the Volt might be today...)  Although something should be said for when the housing market tanked it dried up the construction industry.  The truck market was a very predictable victim.  
But here&#039;s the real point, and it&#039;s got nothing to do with ideology.  The bond holders had their chance.  They should have read the writing on the wall when Wagoner got axed.  A government BK was clearly in view on the horizon.  The UAW has been dealing with this mess based on reality and they&#039;re very shrewd at the negotiating table.  They&#039;ve shown a willingness to sacrifice and make concessions to stay alive.  No doubt because of that, President Obama won&#039;t throw the workers overboard.  That&#039;s admirable.  Gettelfinger and the UAW have played a weak hand fairly well.  That&#039;s more than Chrysler, or GM, can say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jim R<br />
Have to second DanO&#8217;s point on torture and the Bushies conduct of the war.  They blew it.  </p>
<p>On the car-marker front:  it wasn&#8217;t ideology or the UAW that was insisting Chrysler build only big gas guzzlers.  Chrysler management was following the short-term profits on trucks and mini vans. Based on the hope of cheap gas forever.  Just like GM.  (And btw, it wasn&#8217;t the UAW that scrapped GM&#8217;s EV1 10 years ago &#8211; think how much further along the Volt might be today&#8230;)  Although something should be said for when the housing market tanked it dried up the construction industry.  The truck market was a very predictable victim.<br />
But here&#8217;s the real point, and it&#8217;s got nothing to do with ideology.  The bond holders had their chance.  They should have read the writing on the wall when Wagoner got axed.  A government BK was clearly in view on the horizon.  The UAW has been dealing with this mess based on reality and they&#8217;re very shrewd at the negotiating table.  They&#8217;ve shown a willingness to sacrifice and make concessions to stay alive.  No doubt because of that, President Obama won&#8217;t throw the workers overboard.  That&#8217;s admirable.  Gettelfinger and the UAW have played a weak hand fairly well.  That&#8217;s more than Chrysler, or GM, can say.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Churchill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Churchill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R Says:
May 4th, 2009 at 6:25 am

Socialism moves along as planned.

The current government, after charging billions on the peoples charge cards to support unsupportable union paychecks and benefits that have brought Chrysler to its knees

Jim. Rather than your sticking your fingers down your throat to regurgitate the Fox News vomit as what got splattered above...I heartily recommend you and those with the same political bulemia undergo  a little course of theraputic torture...you know...just enough to make you talk sense and tell the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R Says:<br />
May 4th, 2009 at 6:25 am</p>
<p>Socialism moves along as planned.</p>
<p>The current government, after charging billions on the peoples charge cards to support unsupportable union paychecks and benefits that have brought Chrysler to its knees</p>
<p>Jim. Rather than your sticking your fingers down your throat to regurgitate the Fox News vomit as what got splattered above&#8230;I heartily recommend you and those with the same political bulemia undergo  a little course of theraputic torture&#8230;you know&#8230;just enough to make you talk sense and tell the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Thirdcharmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thirdcharmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was really involved in &quot;trying to win the war?&quot; Tell all quote from Christopher Hitchens during his debates on the war: &quot;and if you say &quot;Military Industrial Complex&quot;, I&#039;ll laugh in your face.&quot;

   Yep, those were heady days for Jim R. and his undeclared, it&#039;s-war-when-I-say-it-is&quot; war(s). Or John McCain to the lady who asked him, how will we know when the war is over?: It&#039;s over when the President says it is.&quot; And they&#039;re beating up on poor Condi Rice.....

     Today&#039;s Daily Howler does a nice job reminding us how the likes of Chris Matthews (born again, praise Jesus!) got us into this mess, while they&#039;re none too swift champions like Marc Cooper cheered them on. How did an idiot like Bush get to be President?  Well, there is Cooper&#039;s &quot;it&#039;s all Bill Clinton&#039;s fault&quot; approach. 

     Alas, they&#039;re is also everything every &quot;equal opportunity offender&quot; like Cooper spent those years writing. Obviously, had Al Gore been elected these torture policies would have never seen the light of day. So the guilt of those like Coop who told us both sides were the same can never be fairly ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was really involved in &#8220;trying to win the war?&#8221; Tell all quote from Christopher Hitchens during his debates on the war: &#8220;and if you say &#8220;Military Industrial Complex&#8221;, I&#8217;ll laugh in your face.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Yep, those were heady days for Jim R. and his undeclared, it&#8217;s-war-when-I-say-it-is&#8221; war(s). Or John McCain to the lady who asked him, how will we know when the war is over?: It&#8217;s over when the President says it is.&#8221; And they&#8217;re beating up on poor Condi Rice&#8230;..</p>
<p>     Today&#8217;s Daily Howler does a nice job reminding us how the likes of Chris Matthews (born again, praise Jesus!) got us into this mess, while they&#8217;re none too swift champions like Marc Cooper cheered them on. How did an idiot like Bush get to be President?  Well, there is Cooper&#8217;s &#8220;it&#8217;s all Bill Clinton&#8217;s fault&#8221; approach. </p>
<p>     Alas, they&#8217;re is also everything every &#8220;equal opportunity offender&#8221; like Cooper spent those years writing. Obviously, had Al Gore been elected these torture policies would have never seen the light of day. So the guilt of those like Coop who told us both sides were the same can never be fairly ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: DanO</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shorter Jim R:  If the GOP is trying to win a war, everything is permitted.

I think the founders to specific exception to this notion, but didn&#039;t restrict it to just one party.

Guys like you are the real anti-patriots pal.  It&#039;s guys like you, with no allegiance to any principle of any kind, who really threaten the long-term prospects of the republic.

Power is limited for a reason.  The last eight years should make that point very obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shorter Jim R:  If the GOP is trying to win a war, everything is permitted.</p>
<p>I think the founders to specific exception to this notion, but didn&#8217;t restrict it to just one party.</p>
<p>Guys like you are the real anti-patriots pal.  It&#8217;s guys like you, with no allegiance to any principle of any kind, who really threaten the long-term prospects of the republic.</p>
<p>Power is limited for a reason.  The last eight years should make that point very obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607951</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And are you really so stupid you crave the leadership of the GOP right now ???

I can&#039;t imagine a more &quot;self-destructive moral extremism&quot; on the part of Glenn Beck idiots screaming &quot;Socialism!&quot;  

You guys are even dumber than I thought you were when you  were living in the Bush-Cheney Asshole of Doom...

Enjoy life at the margins of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And are you really so stupid you crave the leadership of the GOP right now ???</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine a more &#8220;self-destructive moral extremism&#8221; on the part of Glenn Beck idiots screaming &#8220;Socialism!&#8221;  </p>
<p>You guys are even dumber than I thought you were when you  were living in the Bush-Cheney Asshole of Doom&#8230;</p>
<p>Enjoy life at the margins of America.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607950</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, bring it on indeed.

Incidentally, when did you take this position ?  Oh yeah - backed into a corner....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, bring it on indeed.</p>
<p>Incidentally, when did you take this position ?  Oh yeah &#8211; backed into a corner&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607948</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another fallacy that will be proven wrong, if the President is dumb enough to try to prosecute or even investigate the decisions made by the last administration to win a war, is that the America people were against allowing their Commander in Chief, who&#039;s primary Constitutional duty is to protect and defend them against all enemies foreign and domestic, to allow harsh interrogation of selected terrorist leaders who refused to cooperate using any other methods. Selected targets that clearly would have information we needed to protect the American people from future fried-alive atrocities.  

I say bring it on...please.  I fully trust the common sense of the people to define what is torture, as opposed to self destructive moral extremism. It will be the best event I can think of to guarantee the current party a one term rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another fallacy that will be proven wrong, if the President is dumb enough to try to prosecute or even investigate the decisions made by the last administration to win a war, is that the America people were against allowing their Commander in Chief, who&#8217;s primary Constitutional duty is to protect and defend them against all enemies foreign and domestic, to allow harsh interrogation of selected terrorist leaders who refused to cooperate using any other methods. Selected targets that clearly would have information we needed to protect the American people from future fried-alive atrocities.  </p>
<p>I say bring it on&#8230;please.  I fully trust the common sense of the people to define what is torture, as opposed to self destructive moral extremism. It will be the best event I can think of to guarantee the current party a one term rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607947</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socialism moves along as planned. 

The current government, after charging billions on the peoples charge cards to support unsupportable union paychecks and benefits that have brought Chrysler to its knees, is trying to force an agreement with preferred stock and bond holder investors, that under standard contract law are the &#039;first&#039; in line to recover any value left in a bankrupted company, that gives the Union the preferred controlling share instead while handing the company management over to a foreign company that will not only benefit from the debt put on American&#039;s charge cards, but will continue to get more charge card debt as needed to support the unsupportable paychecks and benefits of the UAW and the new foreign management.

And why you would logically ask a President would want to do such a thing? Because it is another ideological belief that workers must not lose jobs and Chrysler is to blame for building automobiles the environmentally conscience Americans didn&#039;t want. It is ideological belief that the Americans want smaller Italian cars and Fiat will provide them at American investors and taxpayers expense. 

It is an ideological belief that a centralized government knows what  the people want, and if they don&#039;t, by god it&#039;s what&#039;s good for them and they cannot be trusted to make important choices for themselves. It is an ideology well known and well tried throughout history. In it&#039;s milder form it is known as Socialism. In it&#039;s extreme form it is known as Communism. 

As history has shown, it is an ideology built on an impressive idea, all for one and one for all, with central government enforcing this grand idea. And it is a grand and worthy idea that can and does grip the conscience of our good side. The problem is, as history has shown over and over, it fails miserably favor of another idea that recognizes an even more powerful motivator of human nature. Freedom and self pursuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socialism moves along as planned. </p>
<p>The current government, after charging billions on the peoples charge cards to support unsupportable union paychecks and benefits that have brought Chrysler to its knees, is trying to force an agreement with preferred stock and bond holder investors, that under standard contract law are the &#8216;first&#8217; in line to recover any value left in a bankrupted company, that gives the Union the preferred controlling share instead while handing the company management over to a foreign company that will not only benefit from the debt put on American&#8217;s charge cards, but will continue to get more charge card debt as needed to support the unsupportable paychecks and benefits of the UAW and the new foreign management.</p>
<p>And why you would logically ask a President would want to do such a thing? Because it is another ideological belief that workers must not lose jobs and Chrysler is to blame for building automobiles the environmentally conscience Americans didn&#8217;t want. It is ideological belief that the Americans want smaller Italian cars and Fiat will provide them at American investors and taxpayers expense. </p>
<p>It is an ideological belief that a centralized government knows what  the people want, and if they don&#8217;t, by god it&#8217;s what&#8217;s good for them and they cannot be trusted to make important choices for themselves. It is an ideology well known and well tried throughout history. In it&#8217;s milder form it is known as Socialism. In it&#8217;s extreme form it is known as Communism. </p>
<p>As history has shown, it is an ideology built on an impressive idea, all for one and one for all, with central government enforcing this grand idea. And it is a grand and worthy idea that can and does grip the conscience of our good side. The problem is, as history has shown over and over, it fails miserably favor of another idea that recognizes an even more powerful motivator of human nature. Freedom and self pursuit.</p>
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		<title>By: vicki temkin</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/swine-flu/comment-page-2/#comment-607945</link>
		<dc:creator>vicki temkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 04:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with your friends and celeste.  obama has to stay out of it - can&#039;t make this &#039;political&#039; but knows exactly what&#039;s going on.  congressional hearings are the best way to go.  so what if the country gets caught up in them.  it won&#039;t be a major distraction because there are too many issues going on.  

finally - a president we can believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with your friends and celeste.  obama has to stay out of it &#8211; can&#8217;t make this &#8216;political&#8217; but knows exactly what&#8217;s going on.  congressional hearings are the best way to go.  so what if the country gets caught up in them.  it won&#8217;t be a major distraction because there are too many issues going on.  </p>
<p>finally &#8211; a president we can believe in.</p>
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