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And Gallup tells a different story. I predict Gallup tracking today will show a slight HRC lead among Democrats. They relase in the afternoon sometime.
Clinton is going to pound the stupid-delegates with Florida and Michigan, despite rejecting those state primaries last fall. Democrats continue to pick candidates who flip-flop.
If HRC were playing tennis with Obama and they were warming up without him giving any effort, she would smash one past him and claim that it should count. In fact, before he even got on the court, she would count her practice serves as aces and claim that as a game.
If you can’t win votes honestly, just keep making them up.
McAuliffe, circa 2004: Michigan “will not get seated” if they break rules
“We already had top Clinton supporter Harold Ickes, who voted to sanction Michigan at the DNC, then now complains about the sanctions he himself approved. Now we have Terry McAuliffe himself, as DNC chairman, enforcing the very rules he now thinks should be broken. Mark Nickolas digs out the relevant passages from Terry McAuliffe’s own book: ….”
“Young black activists roared their approval when Barack Obama recently greeted criticism on the trail by dusting off his shoulders, a reference to a rap song by Jay-Z called “Dirt Off Your Shoulder.”
…Online at “The Root,” a Washington Post website for African-Americans, Obama supporter and Princeton professor Melissa Harris-Lacewell was sky high. “Like every other hip-hop generation voter in America I went crazy when he did it,” she wrote. “I almost couldn’t believe it. It was a perfect moment.”
So, Democrats have a choice between hip-hop and flip-flop.
As a fan of Jay Z myself - how can you not be? the guy’s amazing - I thought that was pretty damned cool. It also signaled to me the undercurrent - not much talked about - of age - in the race. The thing about Obama supporters, it seems to me, for the most part, is not a demarcation of white/black or urban/exurban etc.. - rather its 18-35, with a whole different set of cultural reference points. This is not people who grew up listening to “Rumors” and thought it was cool for Clinton to rock out to Fleetwood Mac, it is a generation that listens to hip hop - and I include hip hop’s 80 percent white listening base in what I’m talking about. This audience would shrug off Rev. Wright since this is the kind of thing they’re used to hearing, and reading in their high school-assigned Zinn history books, etc. A jury of them wouldn’t let Sean Bell’s killers off the hook.
The geneartion is a progressive generation. We were the ones in Seattle, the ones who planned antiwar rallies (forget the sects) before the Iraq war even took place, the ones who created the “netroots”, the ones fighting the Stern forces in the SEIU, etc.
Obama is a moderate centrst like Hillary, and has the same cultural reference points. A movement with these reference points may well surpass him.
If thats how you slice the salami, that may well be the case. If you add up the total youth vote, it would be different - and if you add up the youth vote in urban areas it would be far different.
Obama consistently leads Clinton in young white voters nationwide by fairly large margins. Pennsylvania is one of the oldest demographics in the country, which means lots of younger people have simply up and left. Gallup daily tracking is in such continual flux as to be meaningless. They were also tied April 18th.
Even as Hillary Clinton trails Barack Obama…she has made it clear that she plans to stay in the race for the nomination. All of which brings me to this logical conclusion: It is time for Barack Obama to drop out.
If Clinton had the good of the Democratic Party in mind…. But Hillary Clinton isn’t going to drop out. There simply isn’t a function in her assembly code for throwing in the towel.
Obama, on the other hand, is fully capable of it. And if he’s really serious about representing a new kind of politics, now is the time for him to prove it in the only meaningful way left.
If the Democratic Party were winners, which they’re not, they would arrange a deal within the party making Hillary the nominee and Obama the Vice Presidential nominee.
There are three guaranteed winner reasons for this:
1.Obama’s youth, inexperience, and past far left connections make him a marginal Presidential candidate. His Vice Presidental nomination would stop most of the bleeding of the Black vote.
2.Hillary with Bill together just simply have the experience necessary to attract the the middle, and they are not idealogues. Hillary’s nomination would stop the inevitable bleeding of the female vote as well as some of the the ‘bitter’ vote. Obama is just NOT going to nominate her as his Vice President, so McCain will get now have bitter female votes.
3.The only one with real actual experience is Bill. A big plus for a winning team in uncertain times.
But this is not going to happen, thank god, because with the left dominated Democratic party, they are bent on a leftist agenda and would rather take another chance on losing than make any compromise with the unwashed masses. Masses resistant, through ignorance, to re-education by the socially enlightened.
In the mean time, for Republicans it is Schadenfreude.
In the mean time Chicago, another big city run and dominated by liberal democrats for years, and the stomping grounds of Obama’s political experience, continues to fall apart under the abject failure of socialism.
If this were the only city liberal democrats have ruined, you could call it a local problem. But of course it is not. It is in fact a clear and identifiable pattern in cities whose mayor and councils are dominated by liberal left idealogy. The liberal any-thing-goes personal behaviors, and the excuses provided for it, by blaming ‘the man’.
It rips families apart, the very foundation of any healthy city, and causes the other healthy part, business and jobs, to leave and not return. Rudy Gulliani could turn this around, but then this would be impossible, because he is ‘the man’.
I don’t often say wholeheartedly complimentary things, but your above statement embodies exactly how Obama’s campaign should operate, with steadfastness, pride, but not arrogance.
Having finally seenWright’s interview with Moyers, I have to say that I wish Rabbis still had a theology of liberation. Perhaps if that wasn’t the case I wouldn’t have disassociated myself from organized Judaism and the preaching of hate towards Arabs.
Wriight’s appeareance with Moyer was fine. He came across as thoughtful and intelligent.
In the Press Club appearance today he seemed like a different man. This appearance could be extremely destructive to Obama and I believe that Wright, consciously or not, intended it to be.
So a Hillary deathwatch is now definitely premature.
I can’t be sure if the following verse is found in the Bible or the Koran.
“Rev. Wright said, ‘And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die’. In the presence of a crowd of Clinton mourners, Rev. Wright had the stone rolled away from the tomb and bade the Clinton campaign to rise.”
April 26th, 2008 at 3:47 am
Let’s have another look in a week.
April 26th, 2008 at 7:00 am
And Gallup tells a different story. I predict Gallup tracking today will show a slight HRC lead among Democrats. They relase in the afternoon sometime.
You go, Girl!
April 26th, 2008 at 7:14 am
I retract my previous two comments. It seems 90 million Americans tuned in to watch Bill Moyers put the Wright Scandal to rest.
April 26th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Clinton is going to pound the stupid-delegates with Florida and Michigan, despite rejecting those state primaries last fall. Democrats continue to pick candidates who flip-flop.
If HRC were playing tennis with Obama and they were warming up without him giving any effort, she would smash one past him and claim that it should count. In fact, before he even got on the court, she would count her practice serves as aces and claim that as a game.
If you can’t win votes honestly, just keep making them up.
April 26th, 2008 at 7:37 am
McAuliffe, circa 2004: Michigan “will not get seated” if they break rules
“We already had top Clinton supporter Harold Ickes, who voted to sanction Michigan at the DNC, then now complains about the sanctions he himself approved. Now we have Terry McAuliffe himself, as DNC chairman, enforcing the very rules he now thinks should be broken. Mark Nickolas digs out the relevant passages from Terry McAuliffe’s own book: ….”
Anyone have a problem with that?
April 26th, 2008 at 7:41 am
I just looked at the comments under the post referenced in my comment above. I liked this one.
“The dictionary defines hypocrite as: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not.
“Given that the Clintons and McAuliffe are totally amoral, devoid of any core beliefs, they’re incapable of hypocrisy.”
April 26th, 2008 at 7:54 am
Sorry. Last one.
So, Democrats have a choice between hip-hop and flip-flop.
April 26th, 2008 at 8:17 am
As a fan of Jay Z myself - how can you not be? the guy’s amazing - I thought that was pretty damned cool. It also signaled to me the undercurrent - not much talked about - of age - in the race. The thing about Obama supporters, it seems to me, for the most part, is not a demarcation of white/black or urban/exurban etc.. - rather its 18-35, with a whole different set of cultural reference points. This is not people who grew up listening to “Rumors” and thought it was cool for Clinton to rock out to Fleetwood Mac, it is a generation that listens to hip hop - and I include hip hop’s 80 percent white listening base in what I’m talking about. This audience would shrug off Rev. Wright since this is the kind of thing they’re used to hearing, and reading in their high school-assigned Zinn history books, etc. A jury of them wouldn’t let Sean Bell’s killers off the hook.
The geneartion is a progressive generation. We were the ones in Seattle, the ones who planned antiwar rallies (forget the sects) before the Iraq war even took place, the ones who created the “netroots”, the ones fighting the Stern forces in the SEIU, etc.
Obama is a moderate centrst like Hillary, and has the same cultural reference points. A movement with these reference points may well surpass him.
April 26th, 2008 at 8:21 am
HRC won young white voters (age 18-29) in Pennsylvania.
You go, Girlfriend!
April 26th, 2008 at 8:37 am
If thats how you slice the salami, that may well be the case. If you add up the total youth vote, it would be different - and if you add up the youth vote in urban areas it would be far different.
April 26th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Let Obama go one-on-one with Clinton to decide this. And he proved to be effective, scoring four baskets that included a nifty left-handed three-pointer, along with four rebounds and a couple of steals.
Clinton would lead him in steals.
April 26th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Gallup Tracking, Obama/Clinton:
April 21 –50/40
Today –47/47
Looks like a bounce to me, Marc.
You go, Girlfriend!
April 26th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Obama consistently leads Clinton in young white voters nationwide by fairly large margins. Pennsylvania is one of the oldest demographics in the country, which means lots of younger people have simply up and left. Gallup daily tracking is in such continual flux as to be meaningless. They were also tied April 18th.
April 26th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Exit polls show that Pennsylvania’s young white people are actually old white people!
April 26th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
This blog leads in posts by a cranky old man.
April 26th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Historically, people in that demographic, 18 - 35, do not vote on election day. Maybe ‘08 will be different…
April 26th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Ah shucks Serg, come on out and play.
What’sa matter widg’ga anyway, huh? You ain’t retarded is ya?
April 26th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
too many steves:
Politics will be like, so, over by November. You want us to, like, vote? Whatever dude.
April 26th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Enjoy it all from the Barcalounger, bob. ‘Cuz the FOX demographic ROCKS!!!
April 26th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
“Bill Moyers put the Wright Scandal to rest.”
That Bill is tough.
Who was that mild mannered man interviewed?
April 26th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Now, it’s coming to this:
Sounds like Clinton logic to me.
April 27th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Hillary Clinton is telling Obama to quit while he’s ahead. That’s the American way!
April 27th, 2008 at 10:08 am
If the Democratic Party were winners, which they’re not, they would arrange a deal within the party making Hillary the nominee and Obama the Vice Presidential nominee.
There are three guaranteed winner reasons for this:
1.Obama’s youth, inexperience, and past far left connections make him a marginal Presidential candidate. His Vice Presidental nomination would stop most of the bleeding of the Black vote.
2.Hillary with Bill together just simply have the experience necessary to attract the the middle, and they are not idealogues. Hillary’s nomination would stop the inevitable bleeding of the female vote as well as some of the the ‘bitter’ vote. Obama is just NOT going to nominate her as his Vice President, so McCain will get now have bitter female votes.
3.The only one with real actual experience is Bill. A big plus for a winning team in uncertain times.
But this is not going to happen, thank god, because with the left dominated Democratic party, they are bent on a leftist agenda and would rather take another chance on losing than make any compromise with the unwashed masses. Masses resistant, through ignorance, to re-education by the socially enlightened.
In the mean time, for Republicans it is Schadenfreude.
April 27th, 2008 at 10:59 am
In the mean time Chicago, another big city run and dominated by liberal democrats for years, and the stomping grounds of Obama’s political experience, continues to fall apart under the abject failure of socialism.
If this were the only city liberal democrats have ruined, you could call it a local problem. But of course it is not. It is in fact a clear and identifiable pattern in cities whose mayor and councils are dominated by liberal left idealogy. The liberal any-thing-goes personal behaviors, and the excuses provided for it, by blaming ‘the man’.
It rips families apart, the very foundation of any healthy city, and causes the other healthy part, business and jobs, to leave and not return. Rudy Gulliani could turn this around, but then this would be impossible, because he is ‘the man’.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Sorry Jim, but the old coot’s going down. And Obama’s gonna be the one who does it.
McCain’s an out-of-touch phony who’s wack on all the key issues. Also, too many crazy preachers…
Get used to it.
April 27th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Reg-
I don’t often say wholeheartedly complimentary things, but your above statement embodies exactly how Obama’s campaign should operate, with steadfastness, pride, but not arrogance.
April 28th, 2008 at 3:50 am
And dignity!
April 28th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Having finally seenWright’s interview with Moyers, I have to say that I wish Rabbis still had a theology of liberation. Perhaps if that wasn’t the case I wouldn’t have disassociated myself from organized Judaism and the preaching of hate towards Arabs.
April 28th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Marc’s link to Slate for the Clinton Deathwatch now has her up to 13.3% on that link. She’s coming back.
April 28th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Wriight’s appeareance with Moyer was fine. He came across as thoughtful and intelligent.
In the Press Club appearance today he seemed like a different man. This appearance could be extremely destructive to Obama and I believe that Wright, consciously or not, intended it to be.
So a Hillary deathwatch is now definitely premature.
Wright went a long way to reviving the dead.
April 28th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
I love Wright. Can’t get enough of him. Really.
April 28th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
I can’t be sure if the following verse is found in the Bible or the Koran.
“Rev. Wright said, ‘And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die’. In the presence of a crowd of Clinton mourners, Rev. Wright had the stone rolled away from the tomb and bade the Clinton campaign to rise.”
Hillary believes in the Rev., and he delivered.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
The new sheriff asking about one segment of voters missing from Obama’s camp. - LINK