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		<title>By: glory</title>
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		<dc:creator>glory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications &#187; Dean: This Ziegler Guy Tried to Interview People Outside a Journalism Event</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications &#187; Dean: This Ziegler Guy Tried to Interview People Outside a Journalism Event</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I linked to Marc Cooper&#8217;s site regarding the John Ziegler/Annenberg fracas, as Marc had some additional information and quotes [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Arthur Santellan</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/the-great-john-ziegler-usc-confrontation/comment-page-3/#comment-607729</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Santellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone need to relax an watch Pink Flamingo with a friend.</description>
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		<title>By: Anna Churchill</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/the-great-john-ziegler-usc-confrontation/comment-page-3/#comment-607633</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Churchill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uber Cow

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/23/nazi-culture-film-hitler

Terrific sociological commentary...and satire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uber Cow</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/23/nazi-culture-film-hitler" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/23/nazi-culture-film-hitler</a></p>
<p>Terrific sociological commentary&#8230;and satire.</p>
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		<title>By: GM Hoakster</title>
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		<dc:creator>GM Hoakster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R.  Would love to know how you can deduce my ideological position from what I wrote?  

The Kooky and reactionary right existed before the sixties.  In fact William F. Buckley did a fine job of squashing them.  Poor guy is rolling in his grave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R.  Would love to know how you can deduce my ideological position from what I wrote?  </p>
<p>The Kooky and reactionary right existed before the sixties.  In fact William F. Buckley did a fine job of squashing them.  Poor guy is rolling in his grave.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/the-great-john-ziegler-usc-confrontation/comment-page-3/#comment-607627</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If USC was NOT a private campus this wouldn’t have happened, which is depressing because in these type of Matters USC should act like a public institution instead of like some greedy corporation that is hiding something.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, John Ziegler wouldn&#039;t have disturbed the peace, resisted arrest, and generally made an ass of himself (as if he is capable of anything else) on a public campus? And what is USC trying to hide? Like some greedy corporation, yet? You do yourself no favors with such blatant stupidity and intellectual dishonesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If USC was NOT a private campus this wouldn’t have happened, which is depressing because in these type of Matters USC should act like a public institution instead of like some greedy corporation that is hiding something.</i></p>
<p>Oh, John Ziegler wouldn&#8217;t have disturbed the peace, resisted arrest, and generally made an ass of himself (as if he is capable of anything else) on a public campus? And what is USC trying to hide? Like some greedy corporation, yet? You do yourself no favors with such blatant stupidity and intellectual dishonesty.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/the-great-john-ziegler-usc-confrontation/comment-page-3/#comment-607626</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But, instead of an apology, all I hear, is he’s a Toad (who in no way commits journalism).&lt;/i&gt;

I guess one must take the graduate course in false dichotomies to come up with such masterful non sequiturs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But, instead of an apology, all I hear, is he’s a Toad (who in no way commits journalism).</i></p>
<p>I guess one must take the graduate course in false dichotomies to come up with such masterful non sequiturs.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As far as I know, USC is an open campus and the First Amendment still has sway inside campus boundaries.&lt;/i&gt;

Gak. It&#039;s remarkable that so many Americans are so utterly clueless about the law and the Constitution. The First Amendment, if you would bother to read it, is about restricting legislative bodies and what laws they can enact; it&#039;s meaningless drivel to talk about whether it &quot;holds sway&quot; in some location or another. The legislature hasn&#039;t restricted what John Ziegler can say, inside the USC campus boundaries or anywhere else, so the First Amendment is irrelevant. But owners of private property, who are not legislatures -- duh -- can decide that they don&#039;t want people on their property for any number of reasons, including harassing other people on their property, and can require that they leave under trespassing laws. You can debate the ethics or wisdom of such decisions by private property owners, but invoking the First Amendment is foolishly ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As far as I know, USC is an open campus and the First Amendment still has sway inside campus boundaries.</i></p>
<p>Gak. It&#8217;s remarkable that so many Americans are so utterly clueless about the law and the Constitution. The First Amendment, if you would bother to read it, is about restricting legislative bodies and what laws they can enact; it&#8217;s meaningless drivel to talk about whether it &#8220;holds sway&#8221; in some location or another. The legislature hasn&#8217;t restricted what John Ziegler can say, inside the USC campus boundaries or anywhere else, so the First Amendment is irrelevant. But owners of private property, who are not legislatures &#8212; duh &#8212; can decide that they don&#8217;t want people on their property for any number of reasons, including harassing other people on their property, and can require that they leave under trespassing laws. You can debate the ethics or wisdom of such decisions by private property owners, but invoking the First Amendment is foolishly ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Churchill</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/the-great-john-ziegler-usc-confrontation/comment-page-3/#comment-607622</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Churchill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Poetry of Dick Cheney

I&#039;m one of those people
 who
 believes that part of the greatness
 of the United States
 is 
our private sector.

It&#039;s what we do as
private citizens

for ourselves...
 
and our companies.

I think we have to be very, 
very cautious.

I think we&#039;ve gone beyond
what reasonably we could expect
by way of intrusion 
into
 the
 private sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Poetry of Dick Cheney</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of those people<br />
 who<br />
 believes that part of the greatness<br />
 of the United States<br />
 is<br />
our private sector.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s what we do as<br />
private citizens</p>
<p>for ourselves&#8230;</p>
<p>and our companies.</p>
<p>I think we have to be very,<br />
very cautious.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ve gone beyond<br />
what reasonably we could expect<br />
by way of intrusion<br />
into<br />
 the<br />
 private sector.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/the-great-john-ziegler-usc-confrontation/comment-page-3/#comment-607613</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Including the unprofessional old fools in our Universities that taught them how to be kooky and reactionary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Including the unprofessional old fools in our Universities that taught them how to be kooky and reactionary.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoken like a true leftist GM.

It is all very very funny to see pseudo-intellectuals shift all things kooky and reactionary to the right. 

Kooky and reactionary was invented in the &#039;60s by the left and many have yet to grow-up into responsible adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoken like a true leftist GM.</p>
<p>It is all very very funny to see pseudo-intellectuals shift all things kooky and reactionary to the right. </p>
<p>Kooky and reactionary was invented in the &#8217;60s by the left and many have yet to grow-up into responsible adults.</p>
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		<title>By: GM Hoakster</title>
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		<dc:creator>GM Hoakster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you &quot;free thinkers&quot; are not free thinking enough to acknowledge a cynical publicity stunt when you see one than you are obviously not that free at all.  Mr. Moore had plenty of critics on the Left have any number of public figures that speak from that ideological corner.  

Ted Kaczynski was not &quot;progressive,&quot; at least not according to the modern usage of the word.  Obviously Mencius has not bothered to read his manifesto.  He was against technology and progress while a &quot;communist&quot; like say, Marx, or hell even the USSR were all about modernization.  They believed the capitalism failed to equally distribute the benefits of modernity; check out historical materialism.  Communism in his thought is supposed to result in more progress, more modernization, more technology, etc...

Ted and his gang of anti-civilization kooks are reactionary, actually conservative.  They want to go back, not just to mythical conceptions of the nuclear family but way back to hunter and gather societies.  They are even more reactionary than most religious kooks.  If you read some of the anti-civilization folks (John Zerzan being the foremost or check out a mag called Green Anarchy) that actually praise Ted, you will find that they loath &quot;leftists&quot; and leftist thought.    Further you will find that the early Earth First and radical environmentalists like Dave Foreman and Ed Abbey also loathed leftists and were politically conservative and reactionary.  Sorry to state the facts here...

We can go even further with this and remind everyone that the worst act of domestic terrorism was of course brought to us by radical right wingers.  That of course was the Oklahoma City bombing.  

It is all very very funny to see psuedo-intellectuals defending kooky publicity stunts.  USC is the bastion of conservatism in Los Angeles so it can hardly be argued that this was a liberal conspiracy.  Next time an anti-globalization protest goes down I will wait for these noble conservatives to stand up for the rights of the law abiding protesters.  Not going to happen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you &#8220;free thinkers&#8221; are not free thinking enough to acknowledge a cynical publicity stunt when you see one than you are obviously not that free at all.  Mr. Moore had plenty of critics on the Left have any number of public figures that speak from that ideological corner.  </p>
<p>Ted Kaczynski was not &#8220;progressive,&#8221; at least not according to the modern usage of the word.  Obviously Mencius has not bothered to read his manifesto.  He was against technology and progress while a &#8220;communist&#8221; like say, Marx, or hell even the USSR were all about modernization.  They believed the capitalism failed to equally distribute the benefits of modernity; check out historical materialism.  Communism in his thought is supposed to result in more progress, more modernization, more technology, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Ted and his gang of anti-civilization kooks are reactionary, actually conservative.  They want to go back, not just to mythical conceptions of the nuclear family but way back to hunter and gather societies.  They are even more reactionary than most religious kooks.  If you read some of the anti-civilization folks (John Zerzan being the foremost or check out a mag called Green Anarchy) that actually praise Ted, you will find that they loath &#8220;leftists&#8221; and leftist thought.    Further you will find that the early Earth First and radical environmentalists like Dave Foreman and Ed Abbey also loathed leftists and were politically conservative and reactionary.  Sorry to state the facts here&#8230;</p>
<p>We can go even further with this and remind everyone that the worst act of domestic terrorism was of course brought to us by radical right wingers.  That of course was the Oklahoma City bombing.  </p>
<p>It is all very very funny to see psuedo-intellectuals defending kooky publicity stunts.  USC is the bastion of conservatism in Los Angeles so it can hardly be argued that this was a liberal conspiracy.  Next time an anti-globalization protest goes down I will wait for these noble conservatives to stand up for the rights of the law abiding protesters.  Not going to happen!</p>
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		<title>By: bunkerbuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunkerbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 04:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny Z has come very close to making outright death threats against Couric, as noted in the Atlantic profile.
     I can&#039;t wait to see how he answers for that in court, should he make good on his threat to seek legal action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny Z has come very close to making outright death threats against Couric, as noted in the Atlantic profile.<br />
     I can&#8217;t wait to see how he answers for that in court, should he make good on his threat to seek legal action.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Churchill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Churchill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think M has been watching too many John Malkevich movies.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The woody one will never die because he keeps getting infusions.

See, here&#039; s one from me even. Enough to get him through another week of taunts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The woody one will never die because he keeps getting infusions.</p>
<p>See, here&#8217; s one from me even. Enough to get him through another week of taunts.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#  Sergio Says:
April 21st, 2009 at 6:05 pm

such sublime wankery!


Rarely do I echo Sergio, but I&#039;m glad I don&#039;t have Mencius&#039; dry cleaning bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  Sergio Says:<br />
April 21st, 2009 at 6:05 pm</p>
<p>such sublime wankery!</p>
<p>Rarely do I echo Sergio, but I&#8217;m glad I don&#8217;t have Mencius&#8217; dry cleaning bill.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Drink some coffee to keep the rush going.&quot;

 Wow - edgy stuff.  But, personally, I don&#039;t read anything published after 1887.  &#039;Cuz I&#039;m a fuckin&#039; REACTIONARY, baby !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Drink some coffee to keep the rush going.&#8221;</p>
<p> Wow &#8211; edgy stuff.  But, personally, I don&#8217;t read anything published after 1887.  &#8216;Cuz I&#8217;m a fuckin&#8217; REACTIONARY, baby !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>such sublime wankery!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>such sublime wankery!</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt; on the post from the perspective of the journalist....

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jziegler/2009/04/20/the-truth-about-my-arrest-at-usc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Truth About My Arrest at USC - by John Ziegler&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (Selections)

&lt;blockquote&gt;...there is a lot more to say about this situation, largely because there has been so much misinformation, so many irresponsible accusations, and so much blatant hypocrisy in the general reaction to the remarkable videotape. 

...All of this happened obviously not because of my actions but because of my political view on the proceedings. In effect, I was being punished, repressed, and physically harmed as a form of prior restraint because they &lt;i&gt;anticipated&lt;/i&gt; that I &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; do something to disrupt the proceedings based on my prior writings and commentary on the event (in which I never claimed I would do anything more than exactly what I tried to; give away copies of my film as an educational exercise). No matter how hard liberals try to rationalize it, this makes this a very obvious case of a blatant free speech violation. 

...The last bastion of scoundrels looking to distract from the real issues in this case is to focus on me as an individual and transparently distort some of the more colorful stories of my past as a way of destroying me personally. Not only is this a deceitful and clearly politically motivated scheme, but in many ways it is also the most dangerous tactic. For if we do not protect the free speech rights of the most unpopular or misunderstood among us, then we allow the free speech rights of everyone to be precariously weakened. 

...One of the things that has infuriated me most since the arrest has been USC’s e-mail response to the many people who have complained on my behalf over what they saw on the videotape. 

...I plan to aggressively pursue my legal rights in this matter (already, USC has stupidly rejected an incredibly generous settlement offer that included no money, but rather only an apology and a full page in the school newspaper) and intend to formally announce those plans soon.&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Update</b> on the post from the perspective of the journalist&#8230;.</p>
<p><b><a href="http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jziegler/2009/04/20/the-truth-about-my-arrest-at-usc/" rel="nofollow">The Truth About My Arrest at USC &#8211; by John Ziegler</a></b> (Selections)</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;there is a lot more to say about this situation, largely because there has been so much misinformation, so many irresponsible accusations, and so much blatant hypocrisy in the general reaction to the remarkable videotape. </p>
<p>&#8230;All of this happened obviously not because of my actions but because of my political view on the proceedings. In effect, I was being punished, repressed, and physically harmed as a form of prior restraint because they <i>anticipated</i> that I <i>might</i> do something to disrupt the proceedings based on my prior writings and commentary on the event (in which I never claimed I would do anything more than exactly what I tried to; give away copies of my film as an educational exercise). No matter how hard liberals try to rationalize it, this makes this a very obvious case of a blatant free speech violation. </p>
<p>&#8230;The last bastion of scoundrels looking to distract from the real issues in this case is to focus on me as an individual and transparently distort some of the more colorful stories of my past as a way of destroying me personally. Not only is this a deceitful and clearly politically motivated scheme, but in many ways it is also the most dangerous tactic. For if we do not protect the free speech rights of the most unpopular or misunderstood among us, then we allow the free speech rights of everyone to be precariously weakened. </p>
<p>&#8230;One of the things that has infuriated me most since the arrest has been USC’s e-mail response to the many people who have complained on my behalf over what they saw on the videotape. </p>
<p>&#8230;I plan to aggressively pursue my legal rights in this matter (already, USC has stupidly rejected an incredibly generous settlement offer that included no money, but rather only an apology and a full page in the school newspaper) and intend to formally announce those plans soon.<br />
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