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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605913</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605907</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-1/#comment-605894</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605933</link>
		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605930</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605924</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605915</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605913</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605908</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605907</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-1/#comment-605894</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605930</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605924</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605915</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605913</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605908</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605907</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-1/#comment-605894</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605930</link>
		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605915</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605913</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605907</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-1/#comment-605894</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-1/#comment-605894</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<dc:creator>passing through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605924</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605915</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605913</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605907</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-1/#comment-605896</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-1/#comment-605894</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-2/#comment-605924</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Outhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??</p>
<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: An Outhouse</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>proposed increase in the defense dept = gutting of the military??

Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?

BTW, SDI doesn&#039;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</description>
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<p>Are you seriously this stupid or do you just play a moron on blogs?</p>
<p>BTW, SDI doesn&#8217;t and never will work. You like to waste billions of tax payers money on it because St. Ronnie proposed it. Ronnie just got the idea watching  a bad sci fi movie after he went nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: passing through</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;. Who the heck is &quot;et. al.&quot;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &quot;et. al.&quot; for behavior that is Woody&#039;s, and Woody&#039;s alone? It&#039;s very odd ... and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#039;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable -- just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#039;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than ban Woody, who intentionally trolls your blog, picking fights, insulting commenters, lying, mispresenting, and injecting racism and sleaze, you would ban <i>everyone</i>. Who the heck is &#8220;et. al.&#8221;, when the last seven comments from someone other than yourself were all Woody? Why would you blame &#8220;et. al.&#8221; for behavior that is Woody&#8217;s, and Woody&#8217;s alone? It&#8217;s very odd &#8230; and hypocritical, when you belittle others for not just scrolling past Woody, but can&#8217;t manage to do so yourself (which is understandable &#8212; just as it is understandable of those whom you have mocked for engaging him). But the number one reason, I believe, that you won&#8217;t ban Woody is that it would amount to admitting to a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#039;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you see my last comment, Marc, I already had given it a rest.  What&#8217;s of little comment value are the same old left-wing, screeching talking points on this site when they go unopposed.  Signing off.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody et al, please give it a rest. The readers are bored to death by this low level of discourse. Once more I will threaten and this time perhaps fulfill my yearning to shut down comments if this sort of trolliness continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lastly, then I&#039;ll give it a rest...yet another Obama appointee has tax issues - U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 - 2007.

This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#039;s campaign, may explain it: &lt;i&gt;Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  - No stance on record.&lt;/i&gt;

Obviously, Obama&#039;s friends don&#039;t know much about taxes--especially paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lastly, then I&#8217;ll give it a rest&#8230;yet another Obama appointee has tax issues &#8211; U.S. Trade Representative-designate Ron Kirk, who has to pay back taxes covering 2005 &#8211; 2007.</p>
<p>This, from an issues site covering Kirk&#8217;s campaign, may explain it: <i>Ron Kirk on Tax Reform  &#8211; No stance on record.</i></p>
<p>Obviously, Obama&#8217;s friends don&#8217;t know much about taxes&#8211;especially paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#039;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#039;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  
You guys must read the same propaganda.

Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#039;t &quot;act black&quot;?

Wait!  There&#039;s more!  Just another example 
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” 

Of course, you didn&#039;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.

Who&#039;s hypocritical?

Next....

HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.

MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.

You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots...or, is Obots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, NOW I see where you got your slur.<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2009/03/02/cnn-host-d-l-hughley-republicans-literally-look-nazi-germany" rel="nofollow">CNN Host D. L. Hughley: Republicans &#8216;Literally Look Like Nazi Germany&#8217;</a></b>.<br />
You guys must read the same propaganda.</p>
<p>Does it upset the Left that RNC Chairman Michael Steele doesn&#8217;t &#8220;act black&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wait!  There&#8217;s more!  Just another example<br />
<b><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/03/02/msnbc-brings-nation-writer-bash-rush-tout-limbaugh-error" rel="nofollow">MSNBC Brings on Nation Writer to Bash Rush, Tout Limbaugh Error</a></b></p>
<p>“So, Ari, Rush thought he was quoting the Constitution. It was the Declaration of Independence. How embarrassing is that for him, especially the way he slammed the President?” </p>
<p>Of course, you didn&#8217;t hear anything about Clinton when he confused The Gettysburg Address witht The Constitution.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s hypocritical?</p>
<p>Next&#8230;.</p>
<p>HALL: So, does (Limbaugh) represent the mainstream Republican Party? Does he? Beyond that room in there? He’s a very powerful man.</p>
<p>MELBER: He seems to be very popular and it doesn’t seem that there are any members of Congress who will stand up to him.</p>
<p>You guys get your Obama talking points every morning and follow them like robots&#8230;or, is Obots?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &quot;stimulating the economy,&quot; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let&#039;s party!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, the DOW is below 7,000 for the first time since 1997.  Every time Obama opens his mouth about &#8220;stimulating the economy,&#8221; businessmen who understand economics react appropriately.  <b><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96M09BO0&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Let&#8217;s party!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &quot;be screwing up as an elected official&quot; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.

Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#039;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution--despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement--especially from someone who is a Jew.  

The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stalinists&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  

Liberals attack &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &quot;act white&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or &quot;don&#039;t think black,&quot; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  

Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &quot;it&#039;s their turn?&quot;  Is that &quot;acting black?&quot;  Is Obama &quot;acting black&quot; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what you and others want  &quot;It&#039;s your turn.&quot;  Right?

If one calls out the left on that, then &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the race card&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &quot;nation of cowards&quot; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.

Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses--not Marxism.  I&#039;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. 

But, you would rather keep blacks down on the &lt;i&gt;Democratic Plantation&lt;/i&gt; by &quot;taking care of them,&quot; wouldn&#039;t you?  That&#039;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades--and, not out of principle. 

Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#039;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, did you mean that the Negro gentleman with the chicken would &#8220;be screwing up as an elected official&#8221; as a metaphor that he would be stealing chickens?  If so, I see the parallel that you draw.</p>
<p>Aryans?  No, Marc, white U.S. politicians aren&#8217;t the product of Nazi Germany.  Most came from families who came to America for freedom and opportunity and from families who fought and gave their lives to end Nazi oppression and Jewish persecution&#8211;despite your weak attempt to link them.  There should be a little appreciation rather than hate and disparagement&#8211;especially from someone who is a Jew.  </p>
<p>The old crop of politicians have governed better and wiser, especially percentage wise, than <b><a href="http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/vernon/081020" rel="nofollow">Stalinists</a></b> of any color, of which the most powerful one in the world is currently black.  </p>
<p>Liberals attack <b><a href="http://actingwhite.blogspot.com/2008/12/acting-white-vengeful-thomas-gets.html" rel="nofollow"> blacks, like Clarence Thomas, who &#8220;act white&#8221;</a></b> or &#8220;don&#8217;t think black,&#8221; as if being a certain race requires you to think a certain way.  Is no inviduality allowed, and everyone has to be part of a group?  </p>
<p>Do liberals want black politicians to take away everything from producers because &#8220;it&#8217;s their turn?&#8221;  Is that &#8220;acting black?&#8221;  Is Obama &#8220;acting black&#8221; and giving away the spoils?  It sure looks like it, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what you and others want  &#8220;It&#8217;s your turn.&#8221;  Right?</p>
<p>If one calls out the left on that, then <b><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2005/mar/13/opinion/op-obama13" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the race card&#8221;</a></b> is played, which, essentially, you did.  No wonder our Atty. General said that we are a &#8220;nation of cowards&#8221; concerning race discussions.  Nothing can be discussed when the left is filled with hate and wants to shut up those with other views and to shout them down.</p>
<p>Now, if there are no suburbs to which one can flee from a high tax, big spend, welfare-state, irresponsible government, I guess there will be a backlash against those who put in Obama and a re-taking of America for our long-lasting values of freedom and freedom to succeed if one chooses&#8211;not Marxism.  I&#8217;m a conservative, not a Republican, but there will be a backlash, and the Republicans will return stronger than ever. </p>
<p>But, you would rather keep blacks down on the <i>Democratic Plantation</i> by &#8220;taking care of them,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s <i>not</i> change.  In exchange for their votes, the Democrats have been doing that for decades&#8211;and, not out of principle. </p>
<p>Maybe the early drug use of yours and Obama&#8217;s are having long-term effects of distorted perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ur story is racist. I thibk it is pointless and foolish. Where do u think tis negro gentleman was hiding his watermelons?  Also u should be happy that this guy was out buying chicken. One less back man who otherwiswe could be sctewing up as an elected official. I think history has shown Aryans to be far more respoonsible politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#039;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#039;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#039;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we had a heavy snowfall today accompanied by thunderstorms.  It&#8217;ll be iced up tomorrow with some school closings.  I had to go downtown this morning and drove up the highway seeing grocery stores loaded with people buying bread and milk, but then a black guy crossed the street in front of me with what looked like a week&#8217;s supply of fried chicken from Church&#8217;s.  I know that someone will interpret that as being racist, even though it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/this-is-what-change-means/comment-page-1/#comment-605894</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc:  &lt;i&gt;GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.&lt;/i&gt;

So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#039;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  

But, Obama is the star of the new show &quot;Welcome Back, Carter&quot; and has done more &lt;i&gt;lasting&lt;/i&gt; damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  

Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       

On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#039;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats--not because of them.

Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#039;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him--but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#039;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.

Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#039;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot...&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

- - - 

Woody from earlier:  &lt;i&gt;Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. 

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Abstract:      
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   ...The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc:  <i>GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.</i></p>
<p>So far, only because Jimmy Carter was in the last century and because we&#8217;ve only had eight years in this century with a lot to go.  </p>
<p>But, Obama is the star of the new show &#8220;Welcome Back, Carter&#8221; and has done more <i>lasting</i> damage to this nation in one month than Bush did in eight years.  </p>
<p>Obama effectively will bankrupt the U.S. with social waste and debt, as has been done in California, and his gutting of the military and SDI will expose us to new homeland attacks.  As I said before, we did survive Bush.  We can never repay the trillions that Obama is throwing away to repay political debts and buy votes, and the world will lose freedoms that the U.S. military has historically protected.       </p>
<p>On hypocrisy, nothing matches that of the Democrats.  However, Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t speak for me, despite the Democrats and media claiming that he does,  and I never said that <i>I</i> want the President to fail.  Oh, and, Reagan succeeded in spite of the Democrats&#8211;not because of them.</p>
<p>Obama has an incredible lack of understanding of economics and national security.  If his goal is to screw up our nation, I don&#8217;t support him in that.  If he is trying to make our nation better, I will support him&#8211;but, I have to see it first and, so far, I haven&#8217;t.  In any event, I remain a patriot unlike the Left, which still scoffs at flag pins.</p>
<p>Obama, bad enough being like Carter, will be to our nation like Coleman Young was to Detroit.  What is it that so many black politicians have a hard time governing.  Do you think that it&#8217;s because they are elected based upon race rather than qualifications?  Oh, yes, I forgot&#8230;<b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=80645" rel="nofollow">Obama is not expected to govern, but to rule.</a></b></p>
<p>- &#8211; - </p>
<p>Woody from earlier:  <i>Marc, this may surprise you, but corporations are not people. Explain why we should tax an entity that is non-human.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a just published scholarly discusson against the corporate income tax. </p>
<p><b><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1096223" rel="nofollow">The Non-Sense Tax: A Reply to New Corporate Income Tax Advocacy</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Abstract:<br />
This essay challenges recent attempts by influential scholars to rationalize the existence of the corporate income tax. The corporate income tax has long been considered unjustifiable on traditional tax policy grounds. The new justifications recognize that, yet argue that the tax is still desirable because it promotes other goals, such as improvement of corporate governance and restraint of undesirable corporate management power accumulation. The essay demonstrates that the existence and magnitude of these alleged benefits of the corporate income tax are doubtful. Yet, the essay argues, even if taken as correct, the recent rationalization of the corporate income tax cannot support its retention since it misses certain crucial steps in the analysis.   &#8230;The essay goes on to explain the uncertainty that governs the economic analysis of the burden of the tax, which results in confusion and the inability to assess the fairness of the tax as a whole. This understanding should pull the carpet from underneath the very basis of the arguments in support of the corporate income tax. The essay concludes by asserting that the tax not only should, but also could, be repealed consistent with accepted tax policy principles.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedant in me must point out that Hoover was from the 20th century. I&#039;m all for proclaiming Dubya the worst president of the last two centuries.</description>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?

Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.

I have no idea if Obama will &quot;fail&quot; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#039;d be yelling for impeachment.

Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.

Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems-- they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.

Anyway, it&#039;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.

Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, who gives a fug what a clown like Limbaugh wants or not?</p>
<p>Woody, my friend, this is NOT a serious discussion and you know it. You defend Republicans, period. Makes no different what is actually said.</p>
<p>I have no idea if Obama will &#8220;fail&#8221; or not. What I do know is that thanks to the last eight years of Republican administration, America is already in deep, deep failure. If the Dems had been in power over the last eight years you&#8217;d be yelling for impeachment.</p>
<p>Instead ur gonna write back now and say that the current deplorable state we find ourselves in is due to Democratic control of congress since 2006.</p>
<p>Save ur time and mine. If you really believe that then you would by the same logic have to take all the credit u give to Reagan and give it to the Dems&#8211; they, not the GOP, dominated congress during the entire Reagan era.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a failure a greater than the one bequeathed by the incompetent fools we finally voted out of office. GW Bush will go down in history as the worst president of the century.  Roll over, Herbert Hoover.</p>
<p>Also let me mention in pasisng, the gross hypocrisy of your position and that of Limbaugh;s. You want America to succeed but the President to fail. I see. Arent u the same folks who said that those of who criticized Bush was effectively betraying American values and the troops? Man, what a crock.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t get it.  

Limbaugh doesn&#039;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#039;s actually doing to it.

Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t get it.  </p>
<p>Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t want Obama to fail in helping our nation.  He just wants Obama to fail in what he&#8217;s actually doing to it.</p>
<p>Hey, Obama finally admitted that the surge worked.  Talk about hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, don&#039;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#039;s failure? 

Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#039;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before--he&#039;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#039;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, don&#8217;t we all recall that the mere mention of combat deaths in Iraq was derided as the work of leftists taking glee in the possibility of Bush&#8217;s failure? </p>
<p>Now we have Limbaugh openly and actively doing much worse.  He&#8217;s not being unfairly painted that way, as was the case before&#8211;he&#8217;s actually proud of himself.  The modern conservative&#8217;s hypocrisy is unbounded.  Luckily for saner people the country agreed and threw them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s all they&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s all they&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This country survived George Bush.  The odds for Obama are much less.</description>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - evidence you&#039;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#039;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?

 http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; evidence you&#8217;re the one who is disconnected from reality, not Pelosi. Bush&#8217;s Press Secretary, Tony Snow, acknowledged as much, so why keep stirring this pot full of crap ?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R - your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#039;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#039;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &quot;Bush Derangement Syndrome&quot; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail - which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression - &quot;Conservatism&quot; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#039;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R &#8211; your rant on Nancy Pelosi is pretty much completely nuts. Hate-filled invective, awash in bullshit that&#8217;s been totally debunked. Not pretty.  You&#8217;re off in the terrain you deride leftists for inhabiting.  Hyperbole doused in self-righteousness, with a large dose of self-pity for political impotence.   The crazies who accused prudent liberals pointing to serial disasters of &#8220;Bush Derangement Syndrome&#8221; need to look in the mirror.  If Pelosi is the Wicket Witch, who the hell in Congress would you point to as a responsible legislative leader in these perilous times ?   Boehner ?  Eric Cantor ? Gingrich Reruns ?  LOL !!!  With Rush Limbaugh leading the Hate America Right in prayers for the Obama agenda to fail &#8211; which can only mean that  America crashes and burns into a long, painful Depression &#8211; &#8220;Conservatism&#8221; reveals itself in its totality as about as respectable as its much-ridiculed resident ranter in these threads.  Just as ugly and stupid.  I&#8217;d expect you to be wary of falling off that cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: someotherdude</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim R,

And I bet all that is said without irony.

You right-wing statists have had 8 years to bathe in the pig&#039;s trough, and you have the nerve....you are without any moral character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim R,</p>
<p>And I bet all that is said without irony.</p>
<p>You right-wing statists have had 8 years to bathe in the pig&#8217;s trough, and you have the nerve&#8230;.you are without any moral character.</p>
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