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Thus, it is clear you are not serious about this argument.”

Why did he finally admit to this ? He was caught. Why does he deny it’s against the law ? Because he’s a fool and a liar. Why did he do it in the first place ? Because this gang holds rights and liberties in disregard. You appear serious about the argument, but not very serious about the nature of your arguments.

Abbas,
That news report from TBR was very clever; especially the part of about the Polish Ambassador wanting to shit on command—now that’s a lapdog for you. What I find particularly annoying about Bush is his arrogance and his cavalier attitude towards life lost in Iraq. Let me share with you guys an e-mail I sent some other people.

HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS

During this holiday season many people will be reunited with friends and family who have traveled a distance. They will meet and greet them at airports and eagerly anticipate their home coming. It will be a joyful reunion; something to look forward to. However, families waiting for soldiers who have died in Iraq will also be waiting for their loved ones arrival, however, they will be reunited with their relatives at the cargo terminal where UPS delivers freight. Instead of waving to their relatives at the arrival terminal, they with be looking at a conveyor belt waiting for a crate to slide off. What holiday message is the government sending to military families?

DEAD SOLDIERS SENT HOME IN THE LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT

The other day Bush admitted, that we invaded Iraq based on false information: “It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong,” “As president, I’m responsible for the decision to go into Iraq.” So what is he saying? Bush is stating that he was going to invade Iraq, NO MATTER WHAT! His decision was intractable, and it didn’t make a difference what the facts were, the invasion was inevitable. WE WERE GOING TO WAR REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES! An oil field is a terrible thing to waste and so is a soldier’s life. Two Thousand one hundred and fifty-two American soldiers have made the “ultimate sacrifice.” AND NOW THESE DEAD SOLDIERS ARE SENT HOME TO THEIR LOVED ONES IN LUGGAGE COMPARTMENTS AS FREIGHT. Is third class shipping the way our government honors the memory of dead soldiers? Treating the dead like bulk freight; as if soldiers are disposable objects to be used and discarded– is that what Bush means by the term ultimate sacrifice? Dead soldiers should not be hidden in cartons—what is the government afraid of? Mainstream media has been discouraged from showing flag draped coffins. Bush can’t talk like an arrogant bully, play Top Gun in a flight suit for a photo opportunity; and then be afraid to show the end result of his DECISCION—2,152 U.S. Military Deaths. DEAD SOLDIERS NEED TO BE HONORED; AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS FREIGHT AND DUMPED unceremoniously into COLD EMPTY CARGO HOLDS.

MILITARY FAMILIES DESERVE RESPECT

CHICAGO –After Gay and Fred Eisenhauer learned their son had been killed while serving in Iraq in May, the couple traveled to the cargo area at Lambert Airport in St. Louis to get his body.
Army Pfc. Wyatt Eisenhauer’s flag-draped coffin was delivered to his parents in a crate-filled area of the airport where workers on break sat nearby smoking cigarettes.
For Gay Eisenhauer, it was an impersonal place to meet her 26-year-old son on his final trip home.
“When we bring them home and we call them heroes, let’s treat them like heroes all the way and not pull them into a cargo section and bring them home to the family that way,” said Eisenhauer, of Pinckneyville, on Wednesday.

John Holley and his wife, Stacey, were stunned when they found out the body of their only child, Matthew John Holley, who died in Iraq last month, would be arriving at Lindbergh Field as freight.
Matthew was a medic with the 101st airborne unit and died on Nov. 15.
“When someone dies in combat, they need to give them due respect they deserve for (the) sacrifice they made,” said John Holley.

Parents should not have to beg the government to treat their children’s dead bodies with respect, after they gave their lives to fight Bush’s war in Iraq– a war that Bush admitted was based on false information. These war heroes, should be flying back home in military planes not in luggage holds. Their bodies should be in flagged draped coffins not in crates. RESPECT MUST BE SHOWN TOWARDS THE FAMILIES WHO LOST LOVED ONES FIGHTING IN IRAQ. If Bush really believes in the validity of this war then there should be NOT BE A NEED TO HIDE THE DEAD BODIES. What is Bush ashamed of? The ignominious treatment of dead soldier’s, reflects the overall total disregard of Bush’s administration towards the military, which is further demonstrated by their cavalier actions:

• Waging a bogus war based on misleading information

• Not supplying the military with sufficient equipment to prevent injury and death—A great deal of Guard equipment comprised of approximately 64,000 items valued at more than $1.2 billion, has either been destroyed or left in Iraq and the Army cannot account for over one half of it. One would think that the Department of Defense has knowledge however of what equipment has been deployed and that which needs replacement. But stunningly revealed in a Government Accountability Report in October 2005 at the request of the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Army “does not have a complete accounting of these items or a plan to replace the equipment.”

• Forcing soldiers in Iraq to do three or four tours of military duty
• Cutting military health benefits
• Not paying soldiers a living wage
• Using fraudulent recruitment tactics to entice possible enlistees
• Not ending the war in Iraq and redeploying the troops

WHY DO WE NEED AIR FORCE ONE–CAN’T BUSH AND HIS CRONIES TRAVEL 3rd CLASS IN UPS FREIGHT!

COME FLY WITH ME

Flying first class is never an issue for our congressmen—they get plenty of free plane trips from lobbyist who are only too eager to GREASE THEIR PALMS hoping for favors like lucrative military contracts. Defense contractor Brent Wilkes, is a case in point, he had ties to former Rep. Duke Cunningham, and also cultivated relationships with DeLay, Blunt and Hastert.
Hastert has have taken numerous undisclosed trips on Wilkes plane. DeLay flew frequently, and Majority Leader Roy Blunt ) reported flying on Wilkes’ plane as well.
And how about Tom Delays plane trips, how lucky can he get, his airfare to London and Scotland in 2000 when he was House Majority Whip, happened to be charged to an American Express card issued to Jack Abramoff, a Washington lobbyist at the center of a federal criminal and tax probe. Delay’s expenses during the same trip for food, phone calls and other items at a golf course hotel in Scotland, were billed to a different credit card also used on the trip by a second registered Washington lobbyist, Edwin A. Buckham.

Isn’t it ironic that war heroes fly freight and crooks fly 1st class!
Are we are exporting this kind of democracy to Iraq?

Here’s another one…

“Under Section 502 of the National Security Act of 1947, as amended, the heads of all U.S. spy agencies are obligated to furnish “any information or material concerning intelligence activities . . . which is requested by either of the intelligence committees in order to carry out its authorized responsibilities.”

As you must know by now, those committees were indeed briefed about the activities which have raised such a kerfuffle.

While the budget appropriation is hidden (i.e. the amount of the budget is classified, for good reason), the NSA is most certainly funded by congressional bills, as is the gigantic NRO, the existence of which was classified until the ’90s.

Also, the Posse Comitatus act would most likely limit the use of NSA (i.e. military) intercepts in actual prosecutions.

You may not like it, but intelligence and counterintelligence clearly requires secrecy, with minimal disclosures. Hence the existence of congressional committees which meet in secret, and the secrecy of the FISC.

NSA’s job is to gather intelligence by technical means, and to design codes. They do lots of this in secrecy, since the very revelation of their methods or targets disables their abilities.

But the Terrorist Protection Forces in the US are bound and determined to hobble the NSA, just as the Church Commission destroyed the CIA’s covert action and intelligence gathering capabilities.

There is a balance that needs to be struck between civil liberties and national security. There is nothing new about this. But there are civil liberties absolutist who don’t understand this, and seem to believe that everything should be out in the open, and that Americans have no obligation to suffer the slightest invasion of their privacy (even in communications that they should expect to be intercepted by someone – if not us, then foreign powers).

Furthermore, there has been a tendency the last couple of years to attack the administration regardless of the potential harm this causes to our war effort and our security. I find that impulse to be beyond disgusting.

You should consider that your own privacy, unless you are planning on doing terrorism, is not threatened by the recently disclosed NSA activity at all. Beyond the legal reasons and the impulses and training of the personnel involved, NSA simply doesn’t have the resources to gather intelligence on people who are not threats.

By the way, you, like all other commenters are still refusing to answer my challenge on motivation.

Thus, it is clear you are not serious about this argument.

As you wish fat, bald and stupid one.

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TBR News.org – December 16, 2005

“Faced with a de facto revolt in Congress, Bush caved in the McCain plan to ban maltreatment of prisoners of war in American hands. Mark this, Bush was mad as hell and will do everything in his power to sabotage any such agreement. The President is a small minded, mean and vindictive man whose word means nothing and who has the character of a snapping turtle. The idea for torturing the Iraqi, and other, captives originated with Bush himself, not the obvious choice, Cheney the Sadist. Bush actually enjoys the suffering of others. Now, torture has been going on, especially in the CIA, for decades. What these assholes did in Vietnam is as bad as anything Stalin or Hitler did but, of course, no one will dare talk about it and frankly, the CIA has nothing but contempt for the American people and their leaders. We know here that the MI6 in England was fully aware that CIA flights carrying their prisoners to a safe place outside the US to torture them were using Britain as a transit point to Hell. The Brits are reasonably civilized, certainly far more so than the giggling perverts at Langley, and their public is becoming increasingly restive over the torture and other issues. It would not surprise anyone on Embassy Row here if Bush’s lap dog, Blair, got booted out, leaving Bush with only the butt sucking Poles who would let him open up Auschwitz for the torture of Arabs. There is a story, no doubt untrue, that when the Polish Ambassador was visiting the White House, he heard the foul-mouthed Bush shout, “shit!” at the top of his lungs. True to form, the Ambassador dropped his pants and fawningly said, “Where, Sir? In the corner?” Bush will promise anything to anyone…and then never produce. This is partially because his memory is totally shot for medical reasons but also because George W. Bush is a lying, treacherous creature who surrounds himself with similar low-lifes, dead-beats and moral lepers and thinks the world owes him a living. What he is owed by the rest of the normal world cannot be repeated in print.”

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2033.htm

To answer your other question regarding the Bush and the NSA—the NSA has never been subject to any explicit limitations on its operations. While the CIA had been created by statutes that had intended, however unsuccessfully, to put limits on its activities, the NSA has never been subject to a similar embarrassment. It had been created by EXECUTIVE fiat, and was regarded as too secret to require or to need statutes to back it up. Its enormous capabilities have been developed and operated without any substantial congressional authorization; its budget appropriation has been carefully camouflaged within the huge Defense Department budget, and because of its super-secret status it has, until now, enjoyed isolation from controversy that the CIA might envy. At the same time, it has been able to fall back on a statute-P L. 86-39-that exempts the NSA from disclosure laws, including the Freedom of Information Act.