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		<title>By: Mich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Betting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brigite bardotvwj</title>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Freddy what we&#8217;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, next you&#8217;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Betting</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, next you&#8217;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to thank you for taking the time to create this internet website. It has been extremely helpful</description>
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		<title>By: Progressive Auto Insurance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Progressive Auto Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Betting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brigite bardotvwj</title>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checking to see if any relation are out here<br />
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25997</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25983</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25974</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, next you&#8217;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25961</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25938</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25937</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25935</link>
		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-303375</link>
		<dc:creator>Progressive Auto Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Progressive Auto Insurance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Progressive Auto Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Betting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brigite bardotvwj</title>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checking to see if any relation are out here<br />
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25997</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, next you&#8217;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25937</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Betting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mich</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-334767</link>
		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to thank you for taking the time to create this internet website. It has been extremely helpful</description>
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		<title>By: Progressive Auto Insurance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Progressive Auto Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Betting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brigite bardotvwj</title>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checking to see if any relation are out here<br />
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25997</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25983</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25974</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, next you&#8217;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25961</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25938</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25937</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Mich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to thank you for taking the time to create this internet website. It has been extremely helpful</description>
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		<title>By: Progressive Auto Insurance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Progressive Auto Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Betting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brigite bardotvwj</title>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, next you&#8217;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25937</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to thank you for taking the time to create this internet website. It has been extremely helpful</description>
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		<title>By: Progressive Auto Insurance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Progressive Auto Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Betting</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brigite bardotvwj</title>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checking to see if any relation are out here<br />
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, next you&#8217;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25961</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25937</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
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		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-303375</link>
		<dc:creator>Progressive Auto Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Progressive Auto Insurance...&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p>baldness abstractors:conducting Safeco Auto Insurance [url=http://www.aautoinsuranceclaim.com/#]Safeco Auto Insurance[/url] <a href="http://www.aautoinsuranceclaim.com/#" rel="nofollow">http://www.aautoinsuranceclaim.com/#</a> &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Betting</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-73986</link>
		<dc:creator>Betting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betting  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.threadbomb.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Betting&lt;/a&gt;baseball handicapping  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.threadbomb.com/sportsbook/baseball-handicapping.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;baseball handicapping&lt;/a&gt;baseball picks  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.threadbomb.com/sportsbook/baseball-picks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;baseball picks&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: brigite bardotvwj</title>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
http://vintage-barbie.olddj.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checking to see if any relation are out here<br />
<a href="http://vintage-barbie.olddj.com" rel="nofollow">http://vintage-barbie.olddj.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25997</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25983</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25974</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, next you&#8217;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25965</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25961</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25946</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25938</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25937</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Progressive Auto Insurance</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-303375</link>
		<dc:creator>Progressive Auto Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Progressive Auto Insurance...&lt;/strong&gt;

baldness abstractors:conducting Safeco Auto Insurance [url=http://www.aautoinsuranceclaim.com/#]Safeco Auto Insurance[/url] http://www.aautoinsuranceclaim.com/# ...</description>
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<p>baldness abstractors:conducting Safeco Auto Insurance [url=http://www.aautoinsuranceclaim.com/#]Safeco Auto Insurance[/url] <a href="http://www.aautoinsuranceclaim.com/#" rel="nofollow">http://www.aautoinsuranceclaim.com/#</a> &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Betting</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-73986</link>
		<dc:creator>Betting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betting  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.threadbomb.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Betting&lt;/a&gt;baseball handicapping  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.threadbomb.com/sportsbook/baseball-handicapping.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;baseball handicapping&lt;/a&gt;baseball picks  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.threadbomb.com/sportsbook/baseball-picks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;baseball picks&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: brigite bardotvwj</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-72011</link>
		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-27506</link>
		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
http://vintage-barbie.olddj.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checking to see if any relation are out here<br />
<a href="http://vintage-barbie.olddj.com" rel="nofollow">http://vintage-barbie.olddj.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26642</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25997</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25983</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25974</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, next you&#8217;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25965</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25961</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25946</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25938</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25937</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25935</link>
		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25997</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleanore writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleanore writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>brigite bardotvwj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 05:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt &lt;a href=&quot;http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poker&lt;/a&gt; nicht errinern.vwj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich can mich an dich uberhaupt <a href="http://eine-kleine-nachtmusike.com/" rel="nofollow">poker</a> nicht errinern.vwj</p>
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		<title>By: Drop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checking to see if any relation are out here
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys. Really neat. Nana will get a kick out of it when I show her.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-26000</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this literal &quot;limbo&quot; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. 

It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this literal &#8220;limbo&#8221; ironically leaves them open for exploitation yet again, after languishing on remnant lands where poverty is the order of the day, and would be for anyone living in such places. Excellent points Michael. </p>
<p>It also reminds us why the Inuit like oil development [they see it as temporary, bizarrely so] while wildlife monitoring is forever. What they want is money for themselves and the foreigners out. Nothing new about that on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Crosby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &quot;monopoly&quot; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.

The &quot;preference&quot; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &quot;nations&quot; and your local Indian reservation &quot;might as well be Albania,&quot; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.

On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &quot;sovereign but...&quot;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.

So in a variety of areas--peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos--the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  

They came up with this concept of the &quot;compact&quot; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &quot;permit&quot; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &quot;promises&quot; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract--&quot;willingly&quot;, in other words.  And the tribes &quot;agree&quot; to &quot;submit voluntarily&quot; to the jurisdiction of the courts.

The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes--which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws--are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these posts seem to perceive the Indian &#8220;monopoly&#8221; on casino income to be some sort of liberal affirmative action scheme.  Sorry, it is not, though it is to some degree it is the result of  spitballing solutions at the US Supreme Court level.</p>
<p>The &#8220;preference&#8221; really is a manifestation of the historical/political fact that Indian tribes are sovereign &#8220;nations&#8221; and your local Indian reservation &#8220;might as well be Albania,&#8221; as my friend Speedy Rice (who taught American Indian Law at Gonzaga Law School) once put it.</p>
<p>On the one hand, sovereign means sovereign.  There is no apparent status such as &#8220;sovereign but&#8230;&#8221;  So if the Indians want to swallow peyote and out-bingo the Catholics, no one (i.e. no local, state or federal law enforcement official) is going to stop them.   However, the tribes and their members do not exist solely on tribal lands, and they mix with and among people and corporations over which those officials do have jurisdiction.  And those people have rights that nontribal governments are bound to recognize.</p>
<p>So in a variety of areas&#8211;peyote rituals, application of criminal laws, taxation of individual Indians and tribal enterprises and, yes, operation of otherwise-unlawful casinos&#8211;the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court were required to come up with some sort of compromise in an environment where the rights and duties were irreconcilable.  </p>
<p>They came up with this concept of the &#8220;compact&#8221; between each of the tribes and the states.  These compacts &#8220;permit&#8221; the tribe to do what it arguably could do anyway, and the tribe &#8220;promises&#8221; to abide by certain principles that closely resemble state and federal laws.  In the end, the concept is, effectively, that the tribes are governed by law-like principles as a matter of contract&#8211;&#8221;willingly&#8221;, in other words.  And the tribes &#8220;agree&#8221; to &#8220;submit voluntarily&#8221; to the jurisdiction of the courts.</p>
<p>The point is, the preferences allotted to the tribes&#8211;which I think are unjust and among other things deny their employees the protection of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws&#8211;are not a result of affirmative action.  They result from an agreement by both sovereign entities to pull back from the brink of figurative and literal war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Freddy what we&#039;re saying is the opposite of that myth.</description>
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		<title>By: Freddy the Pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy the Pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, next you&#039;re going to say that they fought wars before the white man came.  Kevin Costner told me it was all peace and oneness with nature before we ruined it for everybody here.</description>
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		<title>By: Skippy Greyswood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy Greyswood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the Post is too afraid to take on the newly rich Tribes, but are more than happy to dump on Beverly Hills Jock-made-good Abramoff.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Turmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Turmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanore writes:

&quot;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in...&quot;

The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect - where there&#039;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)

A corollary:
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#039;t get caught.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Thirty-two million dollar payoff is only about 10 percent of the 300 million dollars the Coushattaâ€™s rake in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The truly frightening/depressing thing about the pay-for-influence scandals now breaking (including the one that did in the San Diego congressman) is the *phenomenally low* prices these politicians choose to sell out for.  Paying off lawmakers or regulators has to be one of the highest-leverage transactions out there for a large business.  (Hence the frightening aspect &#8211; where there&#8217;s money to be made, the money will flow, and most of us are the losers in this game.)</p>
<p>A corollary:<br />
The fact that pols are willing to sell off so cheap must mean they are pretty confident, in general, that they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When politicians control what is bought and sold the first thing bought and sold is politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.

This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing one special interest against another is classic lobbyist strategy. Chum the waters and churn and burn.</p>
<p>This Abramoff character is a classic LA hustler who somehow successfully masqueraded for years as a Reaganite true believer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it with all the torrid details. Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Cenizo in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cenizo in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In re the Mark A. York posts, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/01/8tigua.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#039;t know that the reporters didn&#039;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#039;ve see at the NYT lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had no trouble with it, so Post editors have a hand in the final product. We don&#8217;t know that the reporters didn&#8217;t. Sometimes these committees make the wrong choices as we&#8217;ve see at the NYT lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul From Mpls</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25933</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul From Mpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, &quot;playing one tribe against the other&quot; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#039;s happened. 

However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#039;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#039;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. 

They&#039;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#039;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#039;s their choice, not anyone else&#039;s. 

Crunchy - the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#039;s not a lie, that&#039;s okay, right? 

If you&#039;re looking for - as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes - near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, &#8220;playing one tribe against the other&#8221; is both one accurate potrayal of the situation and as you say not the first time it&#8217;s happened. </p>
<p>However, in these days of modern times, where we have instant communication and what-not, it&#8217;s condescending to the tribes to characterize them as purely victims. Not that you&#8217;re doing that, I suppose, but the article evidently does. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grown-ups. Call the other tribe up.  Don&#8217;t let the fucker get away with it. Unless of course you do in fact want to screw the other tribe.  Fine, but it&#8217;s their choice, not anyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Crunchy &#8211; the Republicans will try to do that, and it will have almost no effect on anyone except their most loyal base. And since it&#8217;s not a lie, that&#8217;s okay, right? </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; as a result of this and other alleged right-leaning crimes &#8211; near-total conversion on the part of the American public to a left-leaning view of the right as the only non-dark outcome of this and the whole last five years or more, you will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#039;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#039;s not the first time that&#039;s happened either. It&#039;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reviewed the post and realized the snafu IS the gist of marc&#8217;s point. Sorry, however playing one tribe against the other across state borders is the Abramhoff con. It&#8217;s not the first time that&#8217;s happened either. It&#8217;s right on script. Unlike the WP CBS played the angle as it is to their credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark A. York</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/victimization-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-25930</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark A. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 12:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;with the Inuitâ€™s or is that like selling ice to Eskimos?&quot;

Ted Stevens handles that. The Kaktovik Inuit are more comfortable with roads and drilling than wildlife management techniques used by the U.S. Fish and wildlife Service. Now that&#039;s progress. Hardly noble by any reckoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;with the Inuitâ€™s or is that like selling ice to Eskimos?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ted Stevens handles that. The Kaktovik Inuit are more comfortable with roads and drilling than wildlife management techniques used by the U.S. Fish and wildlife Service. Now that&#8217;s progress. Hardly noble by any reckoning.</p>
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