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		<title>By: Matthw</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-579605</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 08:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Matthw...&lt;/strong&gt;

This was one time where I have to agree to disagree...</description>
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<p>This was one time where I have to agree to disagree&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Loomis</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-538351</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Loomis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CSPAN-2 doesn't seem like such a swell idea anymore. You couldn't watch 3 minutes of that immigration debate without being very worried and a little bit afraid that *something* very wrong was being slipped by everyone under cover of darkness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSPAN-2 doesn&#8217;t seem like such a swell idea anymore. You couldn&#8217;t watch 3 minutes of that immigration debate without being very worried and a little bit afraid that *something* very wrong was being slipped by everyone under cover of darkness.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-535619</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Locicero, has anyone ever accused you of ignorance an bigotry?  Well, if they haven't, then I offer my accusation for starters.  You know nothing of Alabama and you haven't read any of Senator Session's very rational arguments agains the Freddy Kreuger Bill.   The bill was totally unrealistic in its approach to border security and was mainly comprehensive amnesty.  The Congressional Budget Office evaluated the bill and determined that it would reduce immigration overall by something like 13 percent.  Trish is right, the whole backroom dealing that created this bill is hypocritical of the Democrats, as that is exactly what they claimed made them different from Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Locicero, has anyone ever accused you of ignorance an bigotry?  Well, if they haven&#8217;t, then I offer my accusation for starters.  You know nothing of Alabama and you haven&#8217;t read any of Senator Session&#8217;s very rational arguments agains the Freddy Kreuger Bill.   The bill was totally unrealistic in its approach to border security and was mainly comprehensive amnesty.  The Congressional Budget Office evaluated the bill and determined that it would reduce immigration overall by something like 13 percent.  Trish is right, the whole backroom dealing that created this bill is hypocritical of the Democrats, as that is exactly what they claimed made them different from Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Horace</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-535606</link>
		<dc:creator>Horace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've got a novel idea,  Maybe the right won because, outside of the small choir that consists of Marc Cooper and his leftest friends, most Americans have heard both sides of the issue and have sided with the anti-amnesty group.  No bill would be better than the poor excuse for legislation that is the current bill.  However, Cooper and company are in denial and cannot accept reality, and blame the failure on a small group of vocal Americans.  Democracy anyone?  

As to the idea that illegal aliens won't go home, this is just wishful thinking on the part of the left.  More raids, prosecutions of employers (the right insists), new state laws denying benefits, and driver's licenses, can result in a slow repatriation.  The plutocracy that is Mexico may finally be overthrown by an army of retreating immigrants.  The citizens of Mexico who haven't migrated may have a chance to get out of poverty, something that hasn't concerned the sorry left bent on changing the American demographic at the expense of our citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a novel idea,  Maybe the right won because, outside of the small choir that consists of Marc Cooper and his leftest friends, most Americans have heard both sides of the issue and have sided with the anti-amnesty group.  No bill would be better than the poor excuse for legislation that is the current bill.  However, Cooper and company are in denial and cannot accept reality, and blame the failure on a small group of vocal Americans.  Democracy anyone?  </p>
<p>As to the idea that illegal aliens won&#8217;t go home, this is just wishful thinking on the part of the left.  More raids, prosecutions of employers (the right insists), new state laws denying benefits, and driver&#8217;s licenses, can result in a slow repatriation.  The plutocracy that is Mexico may finally be overthrown by an army of retreating immigrants.  The citizens of Mexico who haven&#8217;t migrated may have a chance to get out of poverty, something that hasn&#8217;t concerned the sorry left bent on changing the American demographic at the expense of our citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-528423</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The implication that a majority of Americans opposed the immigration reform bill is simply false. A large majority supported the reform, some sort of amnest AND tightening borders/regulating employers.  This bill was, in fact, mostly trashed by the hard right.  I didn't support the bill for a number of reasons and don't mourn it,  but this comment is an example of how hysterical and delusional many of the opponents have become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The implication that a majority of Americans opposed the immigration reform bill is simply false. A large majority supported the reform, some sort of amnest AND tightening borders/regulating employers.  This bill was, in fact, mostly trashed by the hard right.  I didn&#8217;t support the bill for a number of reasons and don&#8217;t mourn it,  but this comment is an example of how hysterical and delusional many of the opponents have become.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-528212</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans were fed up with being shut out of the immigration debate and thankfully, many talk show hosts gave us a voice. Secret deals behind closed doors with input from special business and Latino groups only killed this "amnesty fiasco". 

Diane Feinstein told her staff to ignore the callers protesting the bill, Trent Lott was infuriated people dared ring his office phone off the wall and stated something "would have to be done". Is that a threat, considering Feinstein now wants to bring back the law that put a chill on news stations years ago ? If they don't like the message, they try to  find another way to silence the majority of Americans who are now demanding the current immigration laws being enforced. 

We're tired, fed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans were fed up with being shut out of the immigration debate and thankfully, many talk show hosts gave us a voice. Secret deals behind closed doors with input from special business and Latino groups only killed this &#8220;amnesty fiasco&#8221;. </p>
<p>Diane Feinstein told her staff to ignore the callers protesting the bill, Trent Lott was infuriated people dared ring his office phone off the wall and stated something &#8220;would have to be done&#8221;. Is that a threat, considering Feinstein now wants to bring back the law that put a chill on news stations years ago ? If they don&#8217;t like the message, they try to  find another way to silence the majority of Americans who are now demanding the current immigration laws being enforced. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re tired, fed up.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-528116</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RLC,

Alabama does have an income tax. I believe you're thinking of Tennessee which doesn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RLC,</p>
<p>Alabama does have an income tax. I believe you&#8217;re thinking of Tennessee which doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-528096</link>
		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Randy the GOP governor of Alabama tried to reform state finances by eliminating those regressive taxes and substituting a income tax but the yahoos in his own party defeated him.

All Alabamians care about is being slightly better than Missississippi and then they're happy as hogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Randy the GOP governor of Alabama tried to reform state finances by eliminating those regressive taxes and substituting a income tax but the yahoos in his own party defeated him.</p>
<p>All Alabamians care about is being slightly better than Missississippi and then they&#8217;re happy as hogs.</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-528088</link>
		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who seriously thinks that Alabama's educational system is better than California's will have to ask themselves why UC Berkeley and UCLA are such desireable stops for foreign students.

Only the besotted give a rat's ass about pigskin! And that Tide ain't exactly bowling them over these days.

(hate to clue you in Woody but the Bear is dead!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who seriously thinks that Alabama&#8217;s educational system is better than California&#8217;s will have to ask themselves why UC Berkeley and UCLA are such desireable stops for foreign students.</p>
<p>Only the besotted give a rat&#8217;s ass about pigskin! And that Tide ain&#8217;t exactly bowling them over these days.</p>
<p>(hate to clue you in Woody but the Bear is dead!)</p>
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		<title>By: Rita MIlls</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-528060</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita MIlls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the answer is pretty obvious myself. This was an issue that both the liberal and conservative voters actually got together on and let their congressmen know how they felt.

I am proud to be a liberal, but I am tired of the immigrants bleeding our country dry. I have no problem with someone trying to better themselves, but you do it the right way. The right right way means going home and starting from scratch not being handed amnesty.

These people are breaking the law and as such shouldn't be rewarded for it. Maybe if all of our tax dollars wasn't going to sustain people who are here illegally, we would have enough money to take care of the people who are citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the answer is pretty obvious myself. This was an issue that both the liberal and conservative voters actually got together on and let their congressmen know how they felt.</p>
<p>I am proud to be a liberal, but I am tired of the immigrants bleeding our country dry. I have no problem with someone trying to better themselves, but you do it the right way. The right right way means going home and starting from scratch not being handed amnesty.</p>
<p>These people are breaking the law and as such shouldn&#8217;t be rewarded for it. Maybe if all of our tax dollars wasn&#8217;t going to sustain people who are here illegally, we would have enough money to take care of the people who are citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-526725</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Kansas used to be a hot bed for progressive populism"

  Hell, Kansas used to be a hot bed for guerrilla warfare...

  John Brown, et. al. !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kansas used to be a hot bed for progressive populism&#8221;</p>
<p>  Hell, Kansas used to be a hot bed for guerrilla warfare&#8230;</p>
<p>  John Brown, et. al. !!!</p>
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		<title>By: David from KS</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-526658</link>
		<dc:creator>David from KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My girlfriend used to work in the business department at a hospital in Wichita, and I can say that from her stories about the number of emergency room treatments of uninsured people on a nightly basis - and the kind of money outlayed - I would not doubt for a second that at least half of personal bankruptcies come out of health care debts.  And undoubtedly this money that hospitals and other health care providers face losing in bankruptcy courts are going to be recouped elsewhere, which is why health care for everybody is so high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My girlfriend used to work in the business department at a hospital in Wichita, and I can say that from her stories about the number of emergency room treatments of uninsured people on a nightly basis - and the kind of money outlayed - I would not doubt for a second that at least half of personal bankruptcies come out of health care debts.  And undoubtedly this money that hospitals and other health care providers face losing in bankruptcy courts are going to be recouped elsewhere, which is why health care for everybody is so high.</p>
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		<title>By: David from KS</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-526641</link>
		<dc:creator>David from KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a little more recently, Bill Roy (D-KS) - a native of Illinois - was a congressman (1970-74) from Kansas's reliably right leaning Topeka district who had high approval ratings, and yet one of the most progressive records of any congressman in that body for his time.  He quit Congress to run for the US Senate, and lost to Bob Dole by just a hair.

Today he is a regular print and radio personality in the state, and one of the few reasons to pick up the Topeka Capital Journal newspaper.  In fact, his column's criticism of the proposed sale of KS Blue Cross Blue Shield to an Indiana conglomerate effectively killed the deal.  He spends his days now trying to convince Kansans of the need for national health care, and frankly I think he is slowly succeeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a little more recently, Bill Roy (D-KS) - a native of Illinois - was a congressman (1970-74) from Kansas&#8217;s reliably right leaning Topeka district who had high approval ratings, and yet one of the most progressive records of any congressman in that body for his time.  He quit Congress to run for the US Senate, and lost to Bob Dole by just a hair.</p>
<p>Today he is a regular print and radio personality in the state, and one of the few reasons to pick up the Topeka Capital Journal newspaper.  In fact, his column&#8217;s criticism of the proposed sale of KS Blue Cross Blue Shield to an Indiana conglomerate effectively killed the deal.  He spends his days now trying to convince Kansans of the need for national health care, and frankly I think he is slowly succeeding.</p>
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		<title>By: David from KS</title>
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		<dc:creator>David from KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The Midwest, which gets lampooned almost as much as the south by coastal types, has consistently brought forth some of the most progressive pols in American history."

That's right.  Kansas used to be a hot bed for progressive populism...Our slogan around here used to be, "Let's start raising less corn and more hell."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Midwest, which gets lampooned almost as much as the south by coastal types, has consistently brought forth some of the most progressive pols in American history.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right.  Kansas used to be a hot bed for progressive populism&#8230;Our slogan around here used to be, &#8220;Let&#8217;s start raising less corn and more hell.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pokey</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-526491</link>
		<dc:creator>Pokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œCuba has 73,000 doctors, twice as many doctors per capita as the United States.â€ 

 The AMA has artificially held down the number of doctors in the United States to drive up doctorâ€™s compensation.  

Isnâ€™t anyone here old enough to remember that doctors used to make house calls?

For the SAME MEDICAL SERVICE costs many times more than it did 50 years ago in constant dollars.  

What do you attribute this huge increase in costs?

- More Tests
- Higher wages for doctors
- More administrative staff
- High insurance
- Lots of uninsured</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œCuba has 73,000 doctors, twice as many doctors per capita as the United States.â€ </p>
<p> The AMA has artificially held down the number of doctors in the United States to drive up doctorâ€™s compensation.  </p>
<p>Isnâ€™t anyone here old enough to remember that doctors used to make house calls?</p>
<p>For the SAME MEDICAL SERVICE costs many times more than it did 50 years ago in constant dollars.  </p>
<p>What do you attribute this huge increase in costs?</p>
<p>- More Tests<br />
- Higher wages for doctors<br />
- More administrative staff<br />
- High insurance<br />
- Lots of uninsured</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-526480</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Alabama actually has progressive economic policy&lt;/i&gt;

Bullshit. Alabama has one of the most regressive tax policies in the US. Alabama is one of two states that has a sales tax on groceries, Mississippi being the other. They also have a sales tax on over-the-counter medicines. If you believe that is progressive, God help you.

What Alperovitz praised and rightly so was The Retirement Systems of Alabama, the state employee pension fund , managed by David Bronner. RSA has been a model for pension finds throughout the USA and I would gladly have Dr. Bronner manage my money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Alabama actually has progressive economic policy</i></p>
<p>Bullshit. Alabama has one of the most regressive tax policies in the US. Alabama is one of two states that has a sales tax on groceries, Mississippi being the other. They also have a sales tax on over-the-counter medicines. If you believe that is progressive, God help you.</p>
<p>What Alperovitz praised and rightly so was The Retirement Systems of Alabama, the state employee pension fund , managed by David Bronner. RSA has been a model for pension finds throughout the USA and I would gladly have Dr. Bronner manage my money.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-526449</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred D - "I think the conservtives are a bit more civil and stick to the issues better"

Woody Says: 
June 28th, 2007 at 7:30 am
Jobs for Illegal Immigrants:

Iâ€¦suggested that when we send the illegal aliens back home we could consider the idea of sending each illegal Mexican home with a small bag of nuclear waste. This way we could be disposing of two problems at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred D - &#8220;I think the conservtives are a bit more civil and stick to the issues better&#8221;</p>
<p>Woody Says:<br />
June 28th, 2007 at 7:30 am<br />
Jobs for Illegal Immigrants:</p>
<p>Iâ€¦suggested that when we send the illegal aliens back home we could consider the idea of sending each illegal Mexican home with a small bag of nuclear waste. This way we could be disposing of two problems at once.</p>
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		<title>By: jcummings</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-526143</link>
		<dc:creator>jcummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alabama actually has progressive economic policy, lauded by Gar Alperovitz in his book America beyond Capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alabama actually has progressive economic policy, lauded by Gar Alperovitz in his book America beyond Capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Dickey</title>
		<link>http://marccooper.com/yawning-silence/#comment-526059</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Dickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm pretty much a centrist who skips around to different blogs to get a variety of viewpoints. This is my first visit to this one, and I'm appalled at the low-level, vitriolic discourse I've found. Things like, 
"a bunch of fundementalist southern religious rascist bigots..." are astounding to me coming from folks who consider themselves "progressive." On balance, I think the conservatives are a bit more civil and stick to the issues better, but that impression if quite anecdotal. On the immigration issue, the bottom line is between open borders and secure borders. Choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty much a centrist who skips around to different blogs to get a variety of viewpoints. This is my first visit to this one, and I&#8217;m appalled at the low-level, vitriolic discourse I&#8217;ve found. Things like,<br />
&#8220;a bunch of fundementalist southern religious rascist bigots&#8230;&#8221; are astounding to me coming from folks who consider themselves &#8220;progressive.&#8221; On balance, I think the conservatives are a bit more civil and stick to the issues better, but that impression if quite anecdotal. On the immigration issue, the bottom line is between open borders and secure borders. Choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rlc, Alabama beats California on education.  In football, they are pretty well matched.  

What you don't see is that comparing the South to other parts of the nation is like comparing an inner city to the suburbs.  The socio-economic situation makes the difference.  

Where I live, we're miles ahead of most of the U.S. and are quite happy.  We have about as many golf cart paths as highways.

But, for those who are in poverty, the rest of the country is just as responsible as any area, and this goes back over 135 years.  The northern armies destroyed the infra-structures that the South needed to rebuild, but, unlike other conquered lands who received aid from us, the U.S. did nothing to help the South.  Homes destroyed, farms burned, factories blown up, railroads ruined, and the best of its men dead or wounded....  It takes a long time and many generations to correct that.  Where's your compassion?

Last weekend, I was in Tuscaloosa, AL and we took a ride in the boat and remarked where the Union forces crossed the river on its way to burn down The University of Alabama with only one week left in the war.  Of course, they looted the town, too.  Justify that.

Oh, and don't give me the slavery bit and the South deserved it.  This was an economic war in which the populus states dictated tariffs and restrictions on the rural states.  Discrimination continued against the South with actions such as "*Pittsburgh Plus."

And, for your information, half of my family is from the north and half is from the south.  I'm just an observer and recount history.


&lt;blockquote&gt;*An important effect of the corporation's dominance was its imposition of the Pittsburgh Plus pricing system upon the entire industry. This system dictated that all steel prices be based upon the costs of production and transportation from Pittsburgh, no matter where the steel was originally produced. This allowed producers based in Pittsburgh to compete with local producers all around the country, since these producers were unable to undersell steel made in markets that U.S. Steel dominated. Although its origins are obscure, Pittsburgh Plus was firmly in place by 1901 and U.S. Steel championed its continued existence. Despite losing a suit by the Federal Trade Commission in 1924, U.S. Steel fought to keep the Pittsburgh Plus system in place in a modified form until it lost a U.S. Supreme Court decision on the matter in 1948.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rlc, Alabama beats California on education.  In football, they are pretty well matched.  </p>
<p>What you don&#8217;t see is that comparing the South to other parts of the nation is like comparing an inner city to the suburbs.  The socio-economic situation makes the difference.  </p>
<p>Where I live, we&#8217;re miles ahead of most of the U.S. and are quite happy.  We have about as many golf cart paths as highways.</p>
<p>But, for those who are in poverty, the rest of the country is just as responsible as any area, and this goes back over 135 years.  The northern armies destroyed the infra-structures that the South needed to rebuild, but, unlike other conquered lands who received aid from us, the U.S. did nothing to help the South.  Homes destroyed, farms burned, factories blown up, railroads ruined, and the best of its men dead or wounded&#8230;.  It takes a long time and many generations to correct that.  Where&#8217;s your compassion?</p>
<p>Last weekend, I was in Tuscaloosa, AL and we took a ride in the boat and remarked where the Union forces crossed the river on its way to burn down The University of Alabama with only one week left in the war.  Of course, they looted the town, too.  Justify that.</p>
<p>Oh, and don&#8217;t give me the slavery bit and the South deserved it.  This was an economic war in which the populus states dictated tariffs and restrictions on the rural states.  Discrimination continued against the South with actions such as &#8220;*Pittsburgh Plus.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, for your information, half of my family is from the north and half is from the south.  I&#8217;m just an observer and recount history.</p>
<blockquote><p>*An important effect of the corporation&#8217;s dominance was its imposition of the Pittsburgh Plus pricing system upon the entire industry. This system dictated that all steel prices be based upon the costs of production and transportation from Pittsburgh, no matter where the steel was originally produced. This allowed producers based in Pittsburgh to compete with local producers all around the country, since these producers were unable to undersell steel made in markets that U.S. Steel dominated. Although its origins are obscure, Pittsburgh Plus was firmly in place by 1901 and U.S. Steel championed its continued existence. Despite losing a suit by the Federal Trade Commission in 1924, U.S. Steel fought to keep the Pittsburgh Plus system in place in a modified form until it lost a U.S. Supreme Court decision on the matter in 1948.</p></blockquote>
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